I am working 12 hour night shifts over the next 6 days, but, if I am not too tired, I will try to post some mornings.

Quote (carmel @ April 25 2013,18:07)Quote No, because each can only be in that state one at a time.Jbtu,WRONG!THE ICE WHILE IN THE FREEZER IS ICE!BUT AS SOON AS IT IS REMOVED FROM THE ICE BOX AND IT IS IN HIGHER TEMPERATURE,THE TEMPERATURE (STEEM) THE ICE, AND THE WATER ARE ONE . INSEPRARABLE!SO THE ICE IS ONE AND THREE,LIKE WISETHE WATER AND THE…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 25 2013,12:12)Quote (jb2u @ April 24 2013,08:55)Additionally, it took them many councils to come up with what this doctrine of the trinity would even be. It was not just one council, Nicene, and everyone said, “OK, that is Biblical truth.” NO, they went back an forth council after council about the particulars of this NEW…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 25 2013,07:26)Quote Jesus' power and authority is GREAT, but it is ALL given Him by..GOD,Jb2u,EXPLAIN THIS:John 16:15 All things whatsoever the Father hath, are mine. Therefore I said, that he shall receive of mine, and shew it to you. It is as clear as crystal:WHATEVER THE FATHER HAS BELONG TO JESUS!WHATEVER THE FATHER HAS…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 25 2013,06:29)jb2u,Would you like a one on one discussion of this? It gets hard to find past discussions when many people are posting in the same thread. I have been real busy lately and now I have a head cold, in a few days I leave for San Diego for about a week. After that I will probably be more consistent on here. So,…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 24 2013,14:58)jb2u,I believe that you asked for verses to support Jesus as Jehovah. Here you go:http://jesusisyhwh.blogspot.com/Oh, Lightenup. No. I did not ask for verses to support Jesus as Jehovah. Please read my posts. I have many valid questions for you. Let's say, you have the truth, and I am lost. Please, answer the…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ April 24 2013,08:01)Quote For one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus 942767,We all know that GOD IS THE MOST MYSTERIOUS, INVISIBLE, UNKOWN,SPIRIT BEING. AND THE ONLY PROOF OF HIS EXISTENCE FAITHWe also know that MAN IS THE MOST TRUE,OBVIOUS, VISIBLE, KNOWN, CARNAL, BEING. NO NEED OF PROOF FOR HIS…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 22 2013,04:42)Quote (Lightenup @ April 21 2013,12:28)Hi jb2u,You said that Jesus is Lord of everyone except God.Who did the OT Jews believe was the Lord of everyone?Hi Kathy:I know you are having a discussion about this with someone and not with me, but maybe I can help.The Jews knew and we know that YHWH is “The ONE and ONLY…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 21 2013,12:28)Hi jb2u,You said that Jesus is Lord of everyone except God.Who did the OT Jews believe was the Lord of everyone?They believed that the Messiah would be their Lord, but not their God or Lord God. Keep in mind, “Lord” is a title. God is The Lord because he reigns over all. The Son of God is Lordof lords and…[Read more]

Thank you Gene and Terraricca. Although I pray that Lightenup will see the truth, I believe my words will be of more benefit to those that may find this website without preconceived notions of a triune God.My hope for Lightenup is that she takes Acts 17:11 to heart and receives the word with all readiness of mind, and searches the scriptures daily…[Read more]

Everyone except God.

Quote (Lightenup @ April 20 2013,07:51)So jb2u,Why would Jesus be a theos in the beginning if He was not to have authority over anyone as a theos?Let's try this…you say He is Lord and that is true. Is God also Lord in your understanding?God is Lord God. I get that from the Bible.What I do not get from the Bible is that Jesus is God, God the son,…[Read more]

Well, He is called a god not the God. Not a God of anyone. He is Lord.Consider the Shema. Now, we both know that this is a belief that there is ONE God for the Jews. Not a triune God, but ONE God.Jesus reconfirms the Shema in Mark 12:28-32. Read it. He doesn't say, “but I have an update for you.” What about the early church? Paul says 1Cor8:5-6…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 19 2013,11:55)Wrong! John 1:18 and John 1:1 speak of two who are God.Plurality in the eternal unity!The Holy elohim are He.You agree that clearly the Bible says that Jesus is called theos.Please answer this jb2u:Who or what is Jesus theos to?a. no one/nothingb. some one/somethingIf choice b. then tell me who or what,…[Read more]

Lightenup…I stumbled upon something that you might be interested in (or not). In reference to John 1:18, I was wondering why my KJV says only begotten Son and yours says only begotten God.I found that there are two manuscript versions out there, some say begotten Son and some say begotten God. The interesting thing is ALL of the manuscripts that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 19 2013,02:22)jb2j, 2 Cor 4:4 does not mention Satan specifically, you and others imply this, but Jehovah has a history of blinding the mind of unbelievers and belittling the wisdom of man.Anyway theos is applied to others but theos and Jehovah are both applied to the Son who is the Word.Quote Let's not make the mistake of…[Read more]

You know Lightenup there is this apologist, Frank Turek. I watch his series “I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.” I think it is a good series showing proof that God is real; however, he believesthat Jesus is God.On one of his shows, he said, “they killed Christ because He claimed to be God.” “Why else would they kill Him.” “The Jews found…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 19 2013,00:39)Hi jb2u,No problem, I have been plenty busy too these past couple of weeks. Would you agree that 'God, the one and only Son' is a fair description of the God that is “in closest relationship with the Father” from how this verse is translated in the NIV?NIVJohn 1:18No one has ever seen God, but the one and…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 18 2013,15:32)T,It is not the written Word that is true but the inspiration of God that brings men to a true understanding.  Satan used Scripture to tempt Jesus and the Sadducees misunderstood about the issue of the resurrection.  There are many who say they go by Scripture but who's works and teaching testify the do not k…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2013,11:17)jb2u,I believe you did not answer this or maybe I missed it. Please answer this:Can you prove that Jesus is not the only begotten God the Son? Can you prove that Jesus is not claiming to be God the Son? I am not asking you to prove that Jesus isn't God the Father.Sorry, I've been busy the last couple of…[Read more]