Quote (Lightenup @ May 31 2013,06:31)you said:Quote The first problem that I see with this article is that it goes off of the targums. The targums are Aramaic translations and paraphrasing of the Hebraic text.The problem that I see with your understanding is that you don't consider the understanding of the times. For instance, the targums clearly…[Read more]

Some more things for you to consider….If Jesus is “the way” and “the door” to God, Can He also be God?Jesus made it clear that He was the WAY to God and the DOOR to get to GOD; because of this, He can not BE God!!! Both of these concepts are biblical!!! To believe that He is God, too, however would not be Biblical.I know that Jesus is the way to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 29 2013,05:20)jb,The 'root of Jesse' is talking about Isaiah 11 where FROM the ROOTS of Jesse comes a branch. Obviously the two terms are not the same here.Isaiah 11 1A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.Even so, the meaning of the word does not change. The shoot still came…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 27 2013,13:57)jb,This is a well written document that expresses what I believe God has been teaching me when I went to Him, much like you, with a willingness to challenge the trinity doctrine. http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/WordChapter.pdfThe first problem that I see with this article is that it goes off of the targums. The…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 26 2013,05:45)Quote 1 Corinthians 1 23But we preach Christ crucified,Jb2u,IT PROVES THAT YOU HAVE ONLY ONE INTEREST!TO CONTRADICT ME, WITHOUT ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND MY POST!THE ABOCE SCRIPTURE IS: PURE GOD'S WISDOM DO YOU DENY THAT IT IS SOANSWER :YES OR NO!Peace and love in JesusCharlesI am NOT here to just contradict you!!! I…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 26 2013,05:53)Jb2u,Read just in case you forgot to respect the context of 1 Corinthians : like you did with my post1 Corinthians 23:But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness: 24But unto them that are called, both Jews and Greeks, CHRIST THE POWER OF GOD, AND THE…[Read more]

Thank you. I will take time to read it and get back with you.

Quote (carmel @ May 26 2013,01:02)t8, Edj,and all,Read and discern!1 Corinthians 1 23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles FOOLISHNESS:25:For the foolishness of God is wiser than men;………..So according to the above, you as gentile, CONSIDER GOD'S WISDOM AS FOOLISHNESS NO?IF SINCE I…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 23 2013,20:39)Ed J. Let me enlighten you.There are numbers all over the place.Just the other day I saw a cow with 2 heads and 8 legs. Hangon a minute, that could have been 2 cows standing next to each other.t8,That is funny right there!!

This is one of my favorites…Acts 17:11These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.This is what I am saying. Be hungry for the word of God. Then, search the scriptures daily to see if what you hear or read is true!!I…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2013,18:51)Quote So tell me….was Jesus a man while on Earth??Jesus was God, in the beginning by nature according to the Spirit (and scripture) and came to be also man according to the flesh after Mary conceived Him. He was both the Root and the Shoot while on earth. Not the way you think about roots though.Btw, jb, when…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2013,18:44)jb,I really appreciate your search but I do not agree with your conclusions. You add your bias to scriptures as we all do and we need to beware of this. If Jesus was only a man, we are lost in our sins. A principal established by Jehovah in the OT is that a righteous man can not die for the sins of even one…[Read more]

So tell me….was Jesus a man while on Earth?? or do you believe He had a dual nature?? or was He fully God?? or something else???please answer.

Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2013,09:01)jb2u,Before you go any further, I believe this passage from Paul rebukes what you are teaching:Clearly Paul is debunking your teaching about Jesus being merely a human being. He is also speaking very sternly about those that teach a different gospel, see the words in red:1Paul, an apostle—sent not from men n…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 23 2013,07:47)…………..AND WHAT ABOUT PAUL'S STATEMENT, THAT ALL SPIRIT WERE SENT TO MINISTER FOR THOSE TO BE REDEEMED! SO THE APPOSTLES WERE NOT CONSIDERRED TO BE REDEEMED, SINCE THEY WERE FROM THE FATHER, ANGELS!Peace and love in JesusCharlesBy “Paul's statement , that all spirits were sent to minister for those to be…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 23 2013,07:08)Quote So, your first mistake is in your belief that I have NOT searched God's word's, knocked, asked, and believed in the truth.t8,YOU MADE ME CONCLUDE SO!FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT I POSTED AT LEAST 3 POSTS, AND YOU SIMPLY IGNORED THEM AND GAVE YOUR OPINION WITHOUT CONTRADICT ME REGARDING MY POINTS IN ORDER TO…[Read more]

Now, what does the Holy Word of God have to say about Jesus? First, let's keep in mind that the Bible can NOT contradict itself; and so, where there is an apparent contradiction, we must rectify it. So, let's go….We can start in Genesis…Genesis 3:15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 21 2013,08:19)Quote I took issue with you saying that the apostles were angels. Knowing that they denied Christ, Jb2u,THAT IS IRRELEVANT!…………….Peace and love in JesusCharlesIt is not irrelevant!! You want to claim that the apostles were angels, but what about the evil spirits? They recognized Jesus as the Son of God…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ May 21 2013,07:33)Quote My problem is that you stated the Apostles were angels. That is NOT in scripture!!! Jb2u,It is in scripture!But it is not word to word like you expect!There are tons of God's hidden things in scripture, and God hidden things are ALL SPIRITUAL, AND IF YOU KEEP RELYING ONLY ON WORDS YOU WILL BE CONFUSED, WE…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 22 2013,09:10)Quote (jb2u @ May 20 2013,07:04)My problem is that you stated the Apostles were angels. That is NOT in scripture!!!Certainly they were not Heavenly Angels JB2U, but men are called angels too because it is the word for 'messenger'. Both John and Jesus was called angels in an Old Testament prophecy and so Malachi means…[Read more]