Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2014,12:15)Quote (jammin @ May 27 2014,06:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,12:32)I am not John, but equal to John in essence…………Jesus is not God, but equal to God in essence……….bingo! i thought you do not believe Christ is equal with God?I don't……..now let us check what mike said beforemike said…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2014,12:12)Quote (jammin @ May 27 2014,06:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,12:34)Quote (jammin @ May 22 2014,07:45)firstborn of all creation does not mean he was created by God.Sure it does, just like “firstborn from the dead” means he was the first of the dead to be born again.Revelation 3:14 and Proverbs 8:22-25 also…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 28 2014,04:19)Jammin,Quote do you understand the version?hahahalet me post it againJn 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father’s side, has made him known. NIVstudy more boyGod's word is God's word, it does not change with the shifting versions.  I understand the translators decided to es…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2014,07:12)Quote (jammin @ May 23 2014,22:17)Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2014,05:16)Jammin,Quote I DID NOT CLAIM THAT THE FATHER IS ALSO THE SON. So you have changed your doctrine and now claim Jesus is equal to the one God but is not the one God.i did not change my doctrine. your reading comprehension is so poor. you may read…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2014,05:47)Quote (jammin @ May 23 2014,22:17)Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2014,05:16)Jammin,Quote I DID NOT CLAIM THAT THE FATHER IS ALSO THE SON. So you have changed your doctrine and now claim Jesus is equal to the one God but is not the one God.i did not change my doctrine. your reading comprehension is so poor. you may…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,12:32)Quote (jammin @ May 22 2014,07:37)of course you are not john but you are equal in essence and that is what i am trying to say in this forum but unfortunately, your brain is not working properly.That's funny….. because that is exactly what I'M trying to say also.  I am not John, but equal to John in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,12:34)Quote (jammin @ May 22 2014,07:45)firstborn of all creation does not mean he was created by God.Sure it does, just like “firstborn from the dead” means he was the first of the dead to be born again.Revelation 3:14 and Proverbs 8:22-25 also back up our understanding of Col 1:15, jammin.give me any version that…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2014,05:16)Jammin,Quote I DID NOT CLAIM THAT THE FATHER IS ALSO THE SON. So you have changed your doctrine and now claim Jesus is equal to the one God but is not the one God.i did not change my doctrine. your reading comprehension is so poor. you may read again all of my posts. i said the son is like his father. they are…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2014,12:21)I can be “equal to” John the Baptist in “essence”, “nature”, “form”, or whatever word you want to use.  therefore, Christ is equal with God the father in essence. correct?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 23 2014,02:40)Jamming……….why did Jesus say the farther was greater then he was , if he were a God, and why did Jesus ever say “for THOU (that means someone other then the person speaking) are the ONLY (that means there is no other) TRUE God (that means all others are false Gods) . Why did not Jesus say “WE” are the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 22 2014,04:03)Quote (jammin @ May 21 2014,19:42)Quote (kerwin @ May 21 2014,06:58)Jammin,You are imagining things or mishearing.  Jesus did not see equality with God as plunder(spoils). Many English translation soften it though the more recent edition of the NIV seems to go even further.the jews understood what christ said.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 22 2014,13:04)JaminQuote you may also check and read my answer to kerwin and mikeI did ,but there was no value in it ,if you can not separate the being of his nature then you have a problem ;see as their are many lions they are in the same nature but not all are one lion they are all different lions ,so even , we all men…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2014,12:21)Quote (jammin @ May 21 2014,07:38)of course im not bob marley but we are equal in essence.So then you CAN be “equal to” Bob Marley, since you are not ACTUALLY Bob Marley, right?That is what I'm trying to tell you.I can be “equal to” John the Baptist in “essence”, “nature”, “form”, or whatever word you want to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 21 2014,06:58)Quote (jammin @ May 20 2014,20:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 17 2014,12:58)Quote (jammin @ May 16 2014,10:45)if christ is not equal with God then paul should not say did not consider equality with God something to be grasped. do you understand the logic here? commentaries also supported my view that Christ is equal…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2014,14:25)Quote (jammin @ May 20 2014,08:24)the jews will never tell “making himself equal with God.”if Christ did not mean that. phil 2.6-7 tells us that he is really equal with God.jammin,Listen a little more closely:It wouldn't matter if there were 1000 scriptures saying Jesus was “equal to God”.  If someone can be…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 17 2014,12:58)Quote (jammin @ May 16 2014,10:45)if christ is not equal with God then paul should not say did not consider equality with God something to be grasped. do you understand the logic here? commentaries also supported my view that Christ is equal with GodPulpit Commentary”to be equal with God.” Christ was equal…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 16 2014,13:05)Quote (jammin @ May 16 2014,07:23)Quote (kerwin @ May 15 2014,04:54)Quote (jammin @ May 14 2014,19:56)Quote (kerwin @ May 14 2014,16:49)Jammin,Quote you need a psychiatrist kerwin.Why do you choose to cover your lack of knowledge with insults? Have you not heard the proverb “It is better for a man to keep his…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 16 2014,13:37)Quote (jammin @ May 15 2014,19:12)if this phrase “form of his own God” (which you were saying) means they have the same form then i agree. Good enough.  I'm tired of talking about it.  Quote (jammin @ May 15 2014,19:12)if Christ is not equal with God, then paul should not say did not consider equality with G…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 15 2014,04:54)Quote (jammin @ May 14 2014,19:56)Quote (kerwin @ May 14 2014,16:49)Jammin,Quote you need a psychiatrist kerwin.Why do you choose to cover your lack of knowledge with insults? Have you not heard the proverb “It is better for a man to keep his mouth closed and to look a fool than to open it and remove all…[Read more]

mike,when gill said THE father in his commentary, he was explaining about form that the father and the son both have. there is no version that would say Christ was existing in the form of HIS OWN GOD. if this phrase “form of his own God” (which you were saying) means they have the same form then i agree. i just do not want make confusion here by…[Read more]