Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2011,12:53)Quote (jammin @ Dec. 18 2011,19:39)the jews are not GOD.. but gods.Good, I'm glad you understand that.  Because the scripture you quoted is better translated:“For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy and because thou, being a man, makest thyself a god.”Quote (jammin @ Dec. 18 2011,19:39)do you…[Read more]

do not compare it to joseph bec he is a MAN! paul is not saying the term equal as a MAN! he says the FORM of GOD! Philippians 2:6Amplified Bible (AMP)6Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly…[Read more]

the jews are not GOD.. but gods. read it carefully my friend. by the way, do you know any person in the old testament claimed that he is a SON of GOD?

you dont understand again col 1:15peter is really right. 2 Peter 3:1621st Century King James Version (KJ21) 16as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things. Therein are some things hard to understand, which those who are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other Scriptures, unto their own destruction.dont make…[Read more]

arius and mike have the same belief. open the eyes of my heart LORD by hillsong.. listen to the song my friend.

did i say two GODS mike??? GOD is nature according to phil 2:6 paul said that. i am just obeying what the bible says. just like you and me, our nature is one. we have the nature of man. mike i am waiting for your answer about phil 2:6. where did you find your words in phil 2:6?

mike that's not a bad translation. that's the truth. even the jews did not agree that christ is equal with GOD (just like your faith). they call it blasphemy. when christ say i and the father are one (jhn 10:30) , the jews took up stones to stone Him. you why they are to stone jesus? bec jesus said i am the SON of GOD! for the jews, if you claim…[Read more]

so we are talking here about john 1:1and according to page 70 mike there are 3 possble translation. you know what ?? the right translation for john 1:1 is GOD not a god. you know why?? most of the translation is GOD and not a god. second, thomas also said GOD! not a god John 20:28Wycliffe Bible (WYC)28 Thomas answered, and said to him, My Lord and…[Read more]

you want me to read verse that christ is equal with GOD.Philippians 2:6The Message (MSG) 5-8Think of yourselves the way Christ Jesus thought of himself. He had equal status with God but didn't think so much of himself that he had to cling to the advantages of that status no matter what. Not at all. When the time came, he set aside the privileges…[Read more]

you are using angels created by GOD. they are not the same with GOD and christ. the term equal in phil 2:6 can not be used to the created angels of GOD.

i mean equally spirit beings. where can you read that in phil 2:6??

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2011,02:55)Yes jammin.I agree that Jesus and his God are equally spirit beings.  I believe that the OTHER angels of God are also equally spirit beings.where can you read equal in spirit in phil 2:6?? that's your assignment mike. the term equal there is not the same as you know. give me a translation saying that christ…[Read more]

same form means equal. i hope you understand the term equal

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2011,02:44)Quote (jammin @ Dec. 17 2011,09:31)dont you have the form of man mikeYes, I exist in the form of man.  What does that mean to you, jammin?  To me, it means that I consist of a spirit, body, and soul.How about God?  What form does God exist in?  He is a spirit being, right?So if Jesus was “in the form of God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2011,02:46)Quote (jammin @ Dec. 17 2011,09:40)now why did paul say did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantageThe words are, “did not consider equality with God something to be grasped”.Just like the many translations I posted for you have it rendered.the answer is in verse 8. that's why…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2011,02:42)Quote (jammin @ Dec. 17 2011,09:30)i said we are equal. did you read my post?And I asked you:Can I be EQUAL TO you and BE you at the same time?  YES or NO?Did you read MY post?i answered this already. read my post mike

i will be reading for now the page 70 and will post tom. because it's already midnight here. i need to take some rest. but dont worry mike, ill be joining this forum and share some ideas tom. thanks peace and love in Jesus,jammin

if you accept that you have the form of man then you will accept christ and GOD have the same form too. form of GOD they are equal. that's why paul said Philippians 2:6-8New International Version (NIV) 6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; Philippians 2:6-8The Message…[Read more]

dont you have the form of man mike??? just a question??? what form do you have???

i said we are equal. did you read my post? we are equal bec we have the same form. form of man! unless you are an animal. very simple english you cant understand.