Lu. ‘God is spirit’

Spirit does not procreate.

You have created your own idolotous belief and now cannot (obviously) string two sentences of worthiness that results in credibility.

As for ‘equality’ of Father and son…as with all your ideologies, you are stumbling badly.

I asked you how the son of God is equal to God and yet subordinate to…[Read more]

LU, you said:

Within the unity of God there is a level of authority and one is subject to the other because one was brought out of (begotten from) the other as His very own Son. Surely the one who begat would have more authority than the one who was begotten. The perfect Son would certainly be eternally subordinate to His perfect Father otherwise…

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LU, your delusion is so deep you do not know what you are writing. It is typical of delusional thinkers to couch their ideology in such a way they can modify it to mean new things as they are found wanting. See, now you realise that you are writing about TWO PERSONS in many of your posts, you suddenly discover that the trinity DOESN’T WORK!!!

“I…[Read more]

LU, your delusion is most troubling.

The Old Testament verse is not speaking of TWO PERSONS (and if so how does a trinity arise from TWO!!! My goodness, trinitarians really cannot do basic first grade arithmetics!!)

‘God of Gods and Lord of Lords’ is a METAPHOR… What is up with you, LU? It means ‘THE GREATEST’… It is a SINGULAR reference.…[Read more]

LU, ‘God of God, Lord of Lords’ is speaking about GOD ALMIGHTY. There is no where where Jesus is mentioned as being ‘God of Gods and Lord of lords’.

I asked you to define ‘God’ and you cannot because you fear what it means… I’m not surprised – it’s stock trinitarian response: ‘Oh dear, if I do then I cannot include Jesus and the holy spirit as…[Read more]

LU, you know nothing at all.

If you are ‘worshipping’ a God that you do not know (and you are) then all these discussions are futile as you can never really see the glory they you imagine that you are seeing.

God is ONE… Not a multiple – you make God (THE GOD) into three being (set of) deities just as in Hindu and Egyptian.

My guess is that…[Read more]

Like, that does not make any sense at all.

‘They are both God’? So you need to go through the gateway that is God to get to God???

And in any case, where are you getting this unfounded notion that ‘they are both God’?

LU, define ‘GOD’ (I’ve already shown you that ‘God’ is a TITLE but you keep using it as a NAME.)

LU, what do you mean by ‘The Father and the son and THEIR HOLY SPIRIT’?

Are there TWO or just ONE Holy Spirit – and – WHOSE HOLY SPIRIT does SCRIPTURES say it is?

Where does any scripture state or claim that the Holy Spirit of the Father is also the holy spiritual of the son?

Lu, just WHERE are you getting these wrongful ideas from?

LU, you said “There would still have been one who was equipped to be a savior if necessary. If He was not needing to save any lost, Adam and Eve and all their descendants still needed Him to create them, give them life and care for them. It is through the Father AND the Son AND Their Holy Spirit that this takes place.”
LU, you are avoiding the…[Read more]

LU, you asked which church I belong to…

Lu, have you heard about the Spiritual Church?

It was with Jesus as the head. It has no physical location (because it is SPIRITUAL).

Membrrs? Millions… Worldwide. But numbers are not the issue: Jesus said that there would be few relative to those who appear to confess Yahweh as their God and Jesus as…[Read more]

Sorry, I missed out verse 4:22…

‘Behold,  the man has become like one of us…’ !!

Ha ha ha… If trinitarians were trying to prove Adam was GOD then this verse would suffice for them – BUT EVEN trinitarians are not THAT daft after all.

And again, you quote a verse in Colossians which APPEAR to be claiming that Jesus created the world and everything in it….

LU, this is an old old false verse… Only a desperate person would bring that as evidence.

Read it s-l-o-w-l-y and c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y and you will see there are MANY ERRORS AND DISCREPANCES.

E.g., in one place it says ‘He…[Read more]

LU, regarding Proverbs 8…

Solomon is talking about WISDOM… God asked Solomon what he wanted as a new ruler. Solomon was a young man, unskilled in ruling and managing his father’s great, heroic and wise men – he felt overwhelmed by them. In his distress – and to his benefit – he made a choice that went against what the majority of people in…[Read more]

LU, you have become confused due to desperation.

Jesus BECAME firstborn WHEN God created him as a SINLESS human being. You are thinking ‘PHYSICAL SPIRIT’… You believe wrongfully that God PROCREATED a person from himself….

LU, SPIRIT does not PROCREATE…

LU, GOD is Spirit…

Now you agree through the DECLARATION shown to you in the…[Read more]

Hebrews 1:5.

I am absolutely sure you have read it for yourself.

You choose to ignore it because it speaks against you.

Sorry, LU, but no matter which way you cut it, scriptures says your ideology is not of Yahweh: God the Father but rather a concoction of your own devising.

Yes, I do apologise for the error (it was probably late and I was rushing!)

In my defence I have written ALWAYS elsewhere at different times that God spoke the ADOPTION STATEMENT to Jesus – so far NO ONE has taken this up but rather they have just ignored a truth which was revealed, strangely, by Andrew, (Hallelujah!). My words to you were meant…[Read more]

LU, the verse STATE that it was at his resurrection.

I see you are choosing to IGNORE that part – and rather than stand down you part quote an irrelevant verse which categorically STATES that it referring to WISDOM – a FEMININE engendered reference.

Yes, LU, God possessed WISDOM before he began his creation – wisely so, wouldn’t you say?

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Hello Edj… It is a dangerous road to go down if it is to be suggested that Jesus’ birth was through natural means in terms of human procreation. This would lead to the ‘veneration and worship of Mary’ that many Protestant and others are fond of claiming – despite absolutely no evidence from scriptures (nor any verifiable source or anywhere else,…[Read more]

Andrew, what is my response to YOU and point put to LU?

Im interested to see how you come to the conclusion you set out above!

Dear Andrew, you really should study more before you raise debate points.

Two authors outline Jesus’ lineage AS THEY SAW IT.

One goes down the Paternal lineage of Joseph(the SUPPOSED human FATHER) and the otherwise through Mary (Maternal). Mary’s lineage dovetails with Joseph’s before it reaches David, therefore NO SCRIPTURE PROPHECY is…[Read more]