Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 16 2010,07:55)Quote (igorwulff @ Feb. 15 2010,14:43)And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true…[Read more]

hey WJ,That is of course your interpretation. Scripture also tells us that nobody has ever seen God, that God is no man or son of man and that he doesn't change (?).I'm thinking about Hebrews 1:8.. even though I have no problem with the passage as someone who doesn;t believe in the trinity doctrine. I wondering, does anybody know more about this…[Read more]

And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.and WE are in HIM that is true, even in HIS Son Jesus Christ.…[Read more]

TT & WJ, doesn't a passage like Isaiah 53 clearly shows the difference between the Almighty God, YHWH and His Servant?Quote Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? 2For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him,…[Read more]

oww.. TT I was just showing that HOTHEOS isn't in all cases about the Almighty God, YHWH.

Hey JustAskin!Hm.. might be possible, yes. Will read this again, and think a bit about it and pray for it. Thanks!

Hebrews 1:9 also clearly shows that Yeshua, has a God above him.Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Well scripture says something different:Acts 3:13-14The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.Johannes 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but…[Read more]

Your understanding of the word 'god' is different then mine, WJ. ;)I look towards the meaning of El, Elohim, etc and Theos to understand what they are actually saying, it seems to me that you and TT aren't doing that?Even so… Yeshua is only very rarely called god and even then, Yeshua clearly has a God, the same we do.TT, I shall look into it.…[Read more]

I'm curious WJ and TT.Hebrew 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. and other passages clearly distinguish God with Yeshua. How can you even say it is possible that Yeshua has a God above Him, according to your understanding of the word…[Read more]

Hi TT,I just had a quick look.. but didn't see HOTHEOS in Hebrews 1:8.. might be that I looked wrong. Wasn't Satan also called HOTHEOS of this world? But, in most and almost all cases HOTHEOS is about God Almighty.

When you think of it… there are really only few verses that actually connect Yeshua with the word 'god'… John 1:1 and the one with Thomas and maybe some more… almost all others can be explained easily in another way. However again that isn't a problem…

haha TT I guess i think differently towards the word 'god'? When humans and angels can be called gods in a non-negative way and it is shown by scripture that it's meaning is of someone with authority/power/etc.. then I don't see a problem when Yeshua is called god/powerful?

hmm… yet Jesus was human on Earth…Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent.

TT, didn't I already reply to that?

What is your opinion regarding Babylon and how it seems connected through pagan things and false teachings in Christianity? Or are there other topics to discuss such matters?

Based on scripture you can't even say that Jesus was (Almighty) God as a human being. The bible states that God is spirit, and that He is no man nor a son of man. Also the bible states that nobody has ever seen Him, while people clearly saw Jesus. God also does not change, correct? But Jesus clearly changes, and receives power and authority in…[Read more]

Hi everyone!TT, I think we answered quit a bit of those passages. ;)I'm wondering what is your opinion of these?Acts 3:13-14The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.Johannes 20:17Jesus…[Read more]

Matthew 1:23 Image of God? Scripture tells us that God is no man nor a son of man and that nobody has ever seen Him. However Jesus is the way to God and is the Image of God.Acts 7:59 as far as I know the word THEOS isn't in that passage? Or is it in some manuscripts?hmmm wierd.. was still 'previewing'.. or so i though..:laugh:

Hmm let's try…:)In the Greek (that was used) New Testament there aren't any upper or lower case letters used as far as I know. So the word 'god' (=theos), could just as easily be translated as God or god. Therefore it is a matter of understanding what the meaning is of a text and of a word. When revering to the God, you should translate it as…[Read more]