PLEASE READThis will help to gain some insight as to what was going on.

T8, Did I not ask you in a PM is when Nick edited on a post, if it comes up on his page?Did I not ask you openly on the forum when Nick edited, if it comes up on his page?Was not my question before your reply? Do not try and change this and take the focus from where it belongs. The Lord revealed to me the deception that was going on and how the…[Read more]

Amen brothers. That is the order the Father set down to the Church. It is the corruption of the baptisms that have created the sons of perditon. They comes posing as angels of light, but their purpose is to steal the souls of men. It is for this reason he had me post the study of the 3 baptism. The world would have you believe that it is not faith…[Read more]

Amen brother. God the Father gives us part of himself, what is called the Holy Spirit. When the Father spoke, begat the Son into existance, the Son even upon conception was filled with the Father, the Holy Spirit. In the beginning was the Word. God spoke the Son into existance. God gave birth to his only begotten Son, the quickening Spirit. The…[Read more]

Nick, did you learn this from a previous post I posted? Seems to me you did not always think this way. If I remember correctly, and my memory has already be proven to be credible, I posted that in the beginning was the Word. That the Father begat the Son in the beginning. You asked if the Father begat a spirit and I told you yes, a quickening…[Read more]

No scriptural evidence to those who look through eyes of flesh. For those of us who view the scriptures with spiritual eyes, the evidence is as plain as the nose on your face.

Dear brothers and sisters,To teach that water baptism saves in a false teaching and is contrary to the Word of God. There are men on this Forum who teach this. I was asked to prove that they are false prophets and here is my proof. It is not water that saves us, but by believing in Jesus Christ. And to teach that water saves is the doctrines of…[Read more]

Amen.

Dear David,I came to this forum by a prayer. The Lord brought me here because there are others who stood on the belief that the trinity is unsound doctrine. I enjoyed the debates at first, but then began seeing that not all was kosher. My first impression here was that everyone was seeking what was faithful and true. And I wanted to believe this…[Read more]

Thank you Lord. As always, you are faithful and true.Dear brothers and sisters. This altercation with Nick and my accusation as to him lying has caused allot of confusion on the forum. And I want to set the record straight.The situation with Nick was that he lied before and I caught him in a lie. I even made the remark that he fibbed. Yet, when I…[Read more]

T8,My posts are not that difficult to understand. The problem is they are for those who have spiritual eyes. If you had them, you would know this. You continue to avoid my question t8. Why will you not answer me?Why doesn't Nick's editing appear on his posts? Your attacking me is not helping your cause t8. Please answer the question truthfully.…[Read more]

To say that water baptism saves is a lie David. Look at it like this. A man goes and gets baptized, and because he got baptized, he believed he was saved because he listened to the doctrines of men instead of the Word of God. He lives his entire life under this deception and dies and because he did not get born again, because he did not get saved…[Read more]

If you can prove that, then let it be so. If you cannot, and will not be able to, for if you cannot tear down the doctrine, what makes you think it is not of God? You are thinking as a man of the flesh and not a man of God. You are walking in the flesh and not in the spirit. Did you do the study of the 3 baptisms? No. Why? Because you are not…[Read more]

As for lying t8, false teaching is lying in the eyes of the Lord. And to teach that water baptism saves is lying.

God will have the final say t8. I thought you were going to be honest. So I am going to post this question on the forum for all and think of it this way, just as it is written here, it will be so in heaven.When Nick edits, has it always gone onto his page? Or did you have it set up that when he edits that it would not show up on his posts?…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 29 2006,01:56)Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Sep. 29 2006,20:44)Let me ask you this t8. If Nick said that water baptism saves. And then says it is faith that saves, would you consider that a lie?\I wouldn't because faith in Christ surely encompasses doing his will and we are told to be baptised.It's like saying “God our only…[Read more]

That is the entire message that I have been trying to convey. The world has corrupted the way the Father has his Holy Apostles set the baptisms to be done in the church and by the corruption of the baptisms, it created a church that had a form of godliness, but denied the power of the Holy Spirit. This in turn brought about a corruption of all…[Read more]

You do not understand what baptism saves us. It is the baptism of blood that saves us. And yes, we are to be baptized by water and also the Holy Spirit. Why do you think the world has become filled with the sons of perdition? Because they corrupted the baptisms?

This verse in Peter is speaking of the baptism of water, not the baptism that saves us, since it says not the putting away of the filth of the flesh. It is speaking of the figure of the baptism that saves us. That is how we know it is speaking of water baptism here. Notice though it is speaking of the baptism that saves us. And the water baptism…[Read more]

Let me ask you this t8. If Nick said that water baptism saves. And then says it is faith that saves, would you consider that a lie?\