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    gonzalespe
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    Dear Sir,
    Thank you for the information that you provided me. You have proven yourself a wealth of information, one which I hope to tap into should other such perplexing questions arise.

    Respectfully,

    #3121
    gonzalespe
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    Dear Sir,
    First of all, thank you for your prompt, yet thorough reply to my post. I appreciate the information.
    Now comes the part that I bother you with more questions.
    If the common idea of the origin of Satan is only an inferrence, why is this one idea so widely taught? When I look at the verses that I have seen in the Bible, I could come up with many conclusions about what is correct, and all of them would have scriptural support. Take this one for example:
    The devil has always been as he is now and he currently dwells in Heaven. 1John 3:8 states that the devil has been sinning since the beginning. John 8:44 contains the same inferrence of the devil being since the beginning. Job states clearly that the devil presented himself before God. Revelation 12 is prophetic, not an historical account, so I would take that to say the whole ordeal with the dragon and the woman is yet to happen. It will be then that the Devil is cast permanently from Heaven.
    I am not saying that this idea is true, or that it is scriptually sound, but I hope my point is clear.
    My next question is as to the first implementation of this as dogma (i.e. who did it and when).
    I am grateful for your help.

    #3120
    gonzalespe
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    For whatever reason, I decided to look into the origins of the Devil and the demons, etc. One of your articles states, "Satan then spread his lies to other beings and all that followed his philosophy suffered the same fate as himself, that was to be eternally seperated from God. This is why Man dies, because God is life and Man is also seperated from God. When Satan looked to himself, he planted a seed. That seed grew in him and consumed his whole being. The seed grew like a tree and one third of the Angels became corrupted by his lies and became like the branches of that tree."
    But where in the Bible does it give this account?? I have looked everywhere and found nothing. When I asked people who I thought would know about this, all they gave me was fragmented pieces from the bible that seemed to make their point, but it really didn’t. Your article quotes Ezekiel 28:17 but that isn’t talking about Satan, it is a prophecy against the King of Tyre. If anyone can support their claims of Lucifer being the most beautiful of the archangels or whatever, I would love to hear it. So would my dad, I’ve piqued his interest as well since he had no answer for me.

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