See how two believers of same group clash, that is what I am revealing here. Arianism is utter confusion and blunder in the history.

So finally you have agreed where from your beliefs originate thanks for that. “Son never was mentioned as spoken or was doing something prior to his birth but you say he had a beginning before the foundations of the world as some spirit being or angel, gave up his spirit nature and entered Mary to become human…. so on and soforth.. are these not…[Read more]

What god or angels?

I believe 'word' is the very expression of God Himself therefore no other God besides Him.

Elohim?An angel or god?

More additions to scriptures by saying Jesus was preexisting prior to his birth on this earth for which no record in the whole O.T. even Trinitarian does not say that.

So all those make Christ Jesus another God?

If you make 'word' another being apart from God Himself which says “the word was God” then two.

I am not fearful, basically I was a Trinitarian I have already confessed that before all. I still give full marks to Trinity than Arianism which complicated the understanding of Jesus and God.

You said earlier Christ is none but the 'one Anointed' you are changing your words my brother.

Elohim(gods or angels) were with God.

Thanks and pl. come to the subject my brother.

Same think I ask all of you here.

Please at lease don't compare Satan with True God.

So what else my brother then you make two Gods in the beginning?

I don't make him at all you people are making Jesus God by saying he was existing as a person who was 'word' in the beginning with God.

No I follow Jewish Monotheism of the Bible.Same thing I asked, you only got offended sorry for that I don't want any arguement on that.

So what do you want to prove by that so called false god Satan?

Judges or people who are appointed by God which does not make them True God.

Why you are so much interested in that phrase? Does that make Satan true God?