Be aware ofMESSIANIC JUDAISM is a religious movement or sect whose congregants comprise both ethnic Jews and Gentiles who believe that Jesus of Nazareth, whom they call Yeshua, is both their savior and the resurrected Jewish Messiah. By 1993 there were 160,000 adherents of Messianic Judaism in the United States and 350,000 worldwide. By 2003,…[Read more]

Hi brothers Gene and Kerwin,You are involved in a deep discussion on the lineage of Messiah. I appreciate both of you for your contribution on this thread. I still part with brother Kerwin in terms of his speculations on Solomon being cut off from Messiah's lineage. He ignores that God establshed the throne of David through Solomon's son Rehoboam.…[Read more]

Hi brother Kerwin,Here is one of the excellent Christian explanation of Jesus genealogy through Solomon and Jehoiachin. Link: http://www.torahofmessiah.com/coniah.htm

Hi brother Kerwin,Here is the passage you quoted from your source. I brought it here for our discussion.Moshe ben Maimon (Maimonides, the Rambam) wrote:”The anointed King (“HaMelekh HaMoshiach”) is destined to stand up and restore the Davidic Kingdom to its antiquity, to the first sovereignty. He will build the Temple in Jerusalem and gather the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 21 2009,19:07)Scripture tells us this:1 Kings 11:31-36(NIV) reads:Quote Then he said to Jeroboam, “Take ten pieces for yourself, for this is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'See, I am going to tear the kingdom out of Solomon's hand and give you ten tribes. But for the sake of my servant David and the city of Jerusalem,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 21 2009,19:26)Gollamudi,Leviticus 17:11 is not the one I would use.  I also am not sure about the one from Hebrews as what I remember is that blood is necessary to seal a contract and I think that is in one of Paul’s letters.  I will therefore look into the issue before making a comment.Hi brother Kerwin,Here is the req…[Read more]

Leviticus 17:11 One of the cornerstones of Christian theology is that the only way to achieve atonement for sins is through the offering of a sacrifice whose blood is shed in our place. The Greek Testament makes this very clear in Hebrews 9:22 “…without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Is this idea consistent with the teachings of…[Read more]

The Servant in Isaiah 52:13-53:1-12 is the nation of Israel, not the Messiah! Rashi comments on this section of scripture, as Israel being the “Suffering Servant” “Behold My servant shall prosper Behold, at the end of days, My servant, Jacob, the righteous among him, shall prosper…. As many wondered As many peoples wondered about them when they…[Read more]

Hi brother Kerwin,I think we should discuss these issues concerning the Jewish Messiah on the proper thread.

Quote (Gene @ Oct. 21 2009,11:04)Kerwin…………..Scripture say Jesus was the root and offspring of King DAVID. An inheritance can be passed to a daughter, As in the case you stated however there were (NO) Sons to inherit anything if there were the inheritance would have went to them and not the daughters, This is not the case with David,…[Read more]

Here is the challenge on virgin birth;”What I will prove is that IF Yeshua was born of a “virgin” mother he is NOT the Messiah of Scripture.  Note that I said Messiah “of Scripture”.  I will show that the “Christ” of traditional Christianity and counterfeit Messianism is actually derived from pagan mystery sun-god religions from which many t…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 16 2009,15:58)Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 16 2009,09:02)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 16 2009,08:35)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 16 2009,06:19)HiTT, Hebrews 6 reminds the saved of the foundation of entry into the kingdom of God and urges them to move on. But those who preach another trinity god have yet to go through the gate of God's…[Read more]

The Jewish Perspective on Isaiah 7:14Please go through the link given below for detailed discussion on Isa 7:14 ;http://www.messiahtruth.com/is714a.htmlhttp://www.messiahtruth.com/isa714b.html

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 19 2009,06:42)The well known Jewish Teacher Maimonides taught just what Jesus does as regards Moses prophesying about the Messiah.Moshe ben Maimon (Maimonides, the Rambam) wrote:Quote The anointed King (“HaMelekh HaMoshiach”) is destined to stand up and restore the Davidic Kingdom to its antiquity, to the first sovereignty. He…[Read more]

I thank the moderator of Heavennet especially T8 for transferring this thread to 'Truth or Tradition' since it belongs to this category.Adam

Hi brother Nick,Jesus did not choose the writer of Matthew personally as he was not an eye witness as per many N.T scholars.

Hi brother Kerwin,That's why I even quoted you as honest Christian than the writer of Matthew. There was no virgin birth in whole O.T but two of the Gospel writers included them to attract pagan gentiles into Church. It was not required to believe in the alleged virgin birth for our salvation. Its importance is zero as per epistles of Paul and…[Read more]

Hi brother Kerwin,You are right in saying that what Luke quoted in his last chapter(24) again proves that the Gospel writers wanted prove Jesus as Jewish Messiah by quoting Jewish scriptures irrespective of their context. Luke avoided quoting Isa 7:14 because he knows that it was disproved by Jews of his time. But he quoted scriptures for Jesus'…[Read more]

Jesus in Isaiah 7.14?: Messiah in the Making:Here is how a genuine Christians answers the query.Before we turn to Matt 1.22-23, where Isaiah 7.14 is actually connected with the virgin birth of Jesus, we must first look at Isaiah 7.14 in its original context. What did Isaiah mean when he wrote,לכן יתן אדני הוא לכם אות הנה העלמה הרה וילדת בן וקראת…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 17 2009,18:14)If you want to discuss what event the scripture in Isaiah was speaking of then all I can say is that there is no way to be certain because it is not addressed again in scripture that I know of.  Some say the virgin was the prophetess that Isaiah begot his son with.   That is plausible though I have trouble u…[Read more]