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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 10 2010,21:07)Adam,I do not trust experts and your example is one reason.  We do not know where Jesus’ family lived according to Matthew until after Jesus’ birth as the witness does not tell us but starts by stating after his birth in Bethlehem the Magi came looking for him.  Herod came as soon as he suspected the Magi had t…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 10 2010,20:23)Adam,They abandoned him only during his arrest and trial but were witnesses with the multitude when he was crucified if I understand the event.  They may not have let it be known that Jesus was their teacher though Jesus acknowledged the one he put as caregiver to his mother.  There was also converts after the e…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2010,20:09)Where does Matthew say Jesus, Jesus' mother, Joseph abode but Bethlehem?But Matthew has Joseph’s family living in Bethlehem (Matt 2:1,11) for up to two years after the birth of Jesus (Matt 2:16)! And after the Magi leave, Joseph is warned in a dream to flee to Egypt and stay there until Herod died (Matt. 2:15). A…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years ago

    Free will or Election of God? (taken from a book)The need of repentance for salvation, or of any other act on the part of the individual damned through Adamseems to be entirely obviated by the explicit avowal of divine responsibility for unbelief — whichseems hard to believe of a good God:”For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 10 2010,19:10)Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 11 2010,01:59)Hi brother Ed J,Thanks for your replies to my queries. Infact you have put smiles on my face. But I can't agree those logics of yours to prove Bible as word of God. To correct you Matthew did not say Galilee was his parents abode but Bethlehem which was also the place of…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 10 2010,17:25)Adam, just keep your faith strong. Know the love you first had, return to that. Can you think what it was like at first for you ? How things can change. Effected by outside influences always.  Life and stressful things happening can also take us away. Keep yourself clean from that, spend time praying and asking…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Hi brother Ed J,Thanks for your replies to my queries. Infact you have put smiles on my face. But I can't agree those logics of yours to prove Bible as word of God. To correct you Matthew did not say Galilee was his parents abode but Bethlehem which was also the place of John his cousin's place (as per Luke). I can accept your logics if you say…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 10 2010,09:21)Adam,Im so sorry if it may seem to you I have changed, in the way I speak, compared to the other times. I have feelings for people sometimes, and I pray for help…to help, and I felt that with you, and I still do. But there are different times for different things. Right now, you have questions, which I cant…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 10 2010,14:51)Adam,I believe the freedom from errors and untruths is only necessary as regards the message of salvation.  I believe whether Jesus does or doesn’t have long hair or any such controversy is unimportant, even if written in scripture.  I am not even sure the spirit regards accuracy in such things as much as tha…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 10 2010,15:28)Adam…………You are not frustration Me brother at all, I know what you are saying and do agree in Part with You, But like is said we have to sort though all scriptures and draw our conclusion and i believe that means sorting our improper wording because as you know Greek is a most confusing language…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 10 2010,00:26)Adam……….Brother, i do agree with you that thee is many errors in scripture, but no two people can describe the same event the same way in nearly all cases so some allowances must be made , that is why it says the ” The Sum of God word is truth” we do need to put them together to draw a proper…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Hi brothers Pierre, Ed J and Kerwin,Sorry I had offended you by my offencive comments on Bible. But I am only questioning its inerrancy and inspiration. Yes inerrancy and inspiration are much needed for our salvation as our brother Kerwin is interested. I find Bible much errant and uninspiring by reading the scriptures. It is filled with myths and…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 08 2010,06:48)Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 04 2010,19:55)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 04 2010,10:24)Adam………You mention in one of your post about the Spirit of Christ, there is also a problem with that expression , one reason is it can be moved back and forth from describing something other than a person or to the Person Jesus…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2010,08:46)Adam,You are using the teachings of man to test God's word.  Is that wise?Hi brother Kerwin,Which is God's word you tell me brother what the writer of Matthew or Luke claimed? If it is really God's word why there are so many errors and contradictions in our Bible? I can only say it is mere human word spoken…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 04 2010,10:24)Adam………You mention in one of your post about the Spirit of Christ, there is also a problem with that expression , one reason is it can be moved back and forth from describing something other than a person or to the Person Jesus Himself. In my opinion the Spirit of Christ is in fact the Holy Spiirt…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 04 2010,06:10)Adam,I suppose you can blame Matthew for believing in the hidden meanings of Scripture, as far as revealed doctrine, but such a belief is known among the Jews. Luke merely wrote down the account as he received it.  By the context I am convinced his source was Mary while Matthew's was Joseph.It was revealed by…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Hi brother Kerwin, this is same as claimed by every Christian which is written in the Bible. It is nothing new for us. But the problem with the so called critical doctrines like Virgin Birth, pre-existence are not revealed to anybody. What is the use of so called revelations many claim here on those clear cut concepts of Bible?

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 30 2010,08:46)Adam,God does not reveal all his mysteries to me so perhaps I cannot answer all the questions you ask but I do know God is righteous and does everything to further his righteous plan.  The virgin conception and birth like the star of Bethlehem is a sign of the Messiah and may be nothing more.    God chose Mary be…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 30 2010,03:03)Adam………The story of Jesus Virgin berth does seem to cause some wonder as to why did not the other Disciples ever mention it and Paul's did not even make one mention of the it nor Peter and John either, you would think they all would have written about it, right. You do have a good point in my opinion…[Read more]

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    gollamudi replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago

    Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 29 2010,22:10)Hi Adam. I had questions, I never understood the answers I was given. Untill I was given answers which were exactly what scripture meant, I could see it. Once you have your answers, and they are there, its ok. But they are there. Having the right person helps. I believe God sends sometimes the right person to…[Read more]

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