Hi seek,When was Jesus first born? if so what form, an angel or some spirit? Was he created? as you have quoted Col 1:15-18 and Rev 3:14, you mean Jesus was pre-existing in some form as I have questioned above. If so he must be an immortal in that form. Then how he has taken mortal form like us? Is it not against God's own creation?You have…[Read more]

Hi Nick,I think You can not leave this phrase 'monogenes son'. Can you show me where this monogenes son was born in O.T.? What form he was there, whether he was an angel or some spirit being? You know angels or any celestial beings they are immortal in nature which means they can not become mortals. If so then they seem to exist as immortal which…[Read more]

Hi Nick,What do you mean by that question? Jesus meant that their actions were not according to the leading of God rather according to the evil one (Satan). Every one in this universe can assume liberally that he is son of the creator God (Mal 2:10;Jn 8:41). It is a default relation with God the creator.yes If you want to re-establish that…[Read more]

Hi T8,Even after fall also God wants us to keep that previllege being called sons of God. That why He has to arrange another perfect son Jesus like first Adam to restore back what is lost through first Adam.What a graciuos God we have who never leaves nor forsake us.Peace to You.Adam

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Quote (Not3in1 @ May 31 2008,18:29)Quote Yeshua is everything to us that the Father is.If this is true, then why did God see fit that we needed a Mediator?Nice question Sis.Adam

Yea Sis,I wonder how people are ignoring such explanations in this forum. Sometimes I recollect Jesus words that he always spoke in parables so that the audience should not get the meaning of what he was telling about, because it was not given to them by God. How dangerous it appears to me. Blessed are you that you have been given with the…[Read more]

ha ha see Nick. One thing you have to remember is that New Testament is written after Jesus' ascention rather after his glorification. The method of narration of scriptures will be that way only as if he was existing as some being and has taken the nature of humans, as many in this forum are misunderstanding. If you see the past from present that…[Read more]

Nice Sis, Keep going on.Hi Nick, you can not appreciate the sound interpretation of scriptures as you are filled with free conceived ideas like you always quote terms like 'monogene son or body prepared'. Why you are so much involved in twisting simple verses towards your beliefs. Jesus conceived in a unique way in the womb of Mary thats why he is…[Read more]

Hi Sis Mandy,Wonderful debate you are involved into. I appreciate it and my wishes are with you. Being a woman you are not weak but you are strong in the Lord. Do continue with your pondering over the conception of Jesus.Hey DK and Nick, don't you both appreciate Not3in1? You always want to prove your pre-existence of Jesus in any of the topics…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 30 2008,13:25)Nick……….What was Paul saying when He said there only one baptism, which one is it then, baptism with water, or baptism with the Spirit.You can be baptized with water and only get wet, but if you are baptized with holy Spirit you will change. It's like circumcision of the flesh, you just get bloody but…[Read more]

Hi T8, sorry to bother you again. As I have already told you, you can not win them like that way. See how they are naming you ('arians'). I don't feel ashamed to caution you again that don't stand on two boats, you will fall in between. Don't be confused about the image or nature of God, even the first man was in the image and nature of God. You…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ May 30 2008,04:38)Quote (942767 @ May 24 2008,11:47)Quote (gollamudi @ May 19 2008,19:16)Hi Seek,If the word was a spirit being then it must have been God also according to Jn1:1; You mean to say there were two Gods in the beginning? How about monotheism? That is where all the trinitarians mistaken and created a second person in…[Read more]

Nice question, ShaniaMay God continue to guide in His Spirit.Adam

Hi Nick, yes Paul said that there are many (so called) gods but not for us. Please remember that you are unnecessarily bringing that issue. To us Christ is not God but he is the Lord who is in authority given by the that One God.Hope you will appreciate thisAdam

Quote (dirtyknections @ May 29 2008,15:22)Hey gollamudi…Nick's reply to you concerning spirit is also my reply..jesus is a spiritPhil 2:6-  who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped,Hi Dk, Please watchout by interpreting this verse in that way you make more than one God. I hope belive…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ May 29 2008,05:58)Hi everyone,-Jesus is not an angel..but he is in the same form as the angels, aka celestial body or spirit creature-We have free will..given to us by GodHi DK, welcome to the family of God. I am from India. We do have some JW here.These are the few things that I don't agree with your beliefs. Jesus is not…[Read more]

Quote (Dasgooey @ May 29 2008,09:12)Hello all,After reading through the first 7 or so pages of the discussion I skipped to the end to see when the last post was. To my amazement it was still going on. I got to thinking to myself. Maybe they are not asking the right question. Maybe instead of debating over whether or not Jesus Christ is “God the s…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 29 2008,04:16)Are the angels who are called “gods” in the Bible considered monotheists?Hi David,What do you mean by asking such question?Do you mean the angels who are mightier(gods) believe in monotheism?Yes any created being in this universe has to believe in monotheism.There is only One God who created this universe. Why do…[Read more]

Oh! my brother Gene, I am really moved by the Spirit of God as I read your post above.What a wonderful God we have who is in full control of our lives. There is nothing to worry when we are in His safe hands.Your explanation about the evil others do to us is really amazing. How can we hate our brother after knowing the cause and affects in their…[Read more]