Where are you staying in the scriptures when you believe the mythology of pre-existence?

Hi Nick,what do you want to make with your god of this world as you repeatedly quote as you like him??

Hi Silva, yes through the name only that is Jesus the name above all names not that the person Jesus is God.Adam

May be relevent for Nick and DK

Your interpretation on Jn 3:16 is wrong. It talks about Jesus' birth that has taken place in a unique way on this earth. It doesn't mean some how God begot Jesus as lightenUp was claiming as light in Gen 1:2-3.

Come on my friend if are in that I have to pity you being a christian. Pl. find some other place for your dogma.

Hey come on DK you can not make choice as free will which will not be influenced by anybody or any thing which only God the creator have. Again I caution you whoever wanted to use their so called free will failed miserably. The examples you gave are for negative results because there is no such thing called free will given to creatures.Adam

Which scriptures you say?

Where is the free will again when you are influenced, see God is not influenced like we do that is what the definition of free will. Yes I can give you verses see theseEph 2:8-10, Jn 6:44-45, Rom 7:15-25Adam

Hi DK,people like you, Nick and many can not agree with sound doctrines, they only agree with mythology believing more than one God by misinterpreting scriptures.Adam

Hi Arti,I don't know what you believe, your query has been answered in Isaiah 53 ” He himself bore the sins of many”Adam

Hi DK,What do you want prove with this you want to prove that you have free will and because of which you saved your self without the influence of God? If so you are in a miserable condition. People failed because they thought they have free will.Please realise that God is the one who is the creator who alone has free will not the creatures you…[Read more]

Hey come on, Nick you are silly in making such useless question to Gene.You can not get what is the sound doctrine. Leave it don't argue further. Adam

Quote (dirtyknections @ June 05 2008,01:42)Artizan…you misinterpret…Jesus being begotten means….THAT HE WAS THE ONLY SON OF GOD CREATED DIRECTLY BY GOD's HANDS…Yes god had other sons..but not begotten sons…All of Abrahams sons were begotten by him…THERE IS THE DIFFERENCEHi DK, where is that in the Bible? Adam

Quote (Artizan007 @ June 05 2008,01:35)Nick, “Monogenes” God's unique son, which you say is his Pre-existent son/being is called so because like Isaac, Abraham's unique “monogenes” son, he was a son of promise. Promised long before Abraham received the promise of his unique son, Isaac. He was not Abraham's “only son” for he had others, and so does…[Read more]

Hi DK,You have given the right examples of those who used their free wills than that of God's, that's why they failed.If we also believe that we can use our free wills than God's then there it is utter confusion and failure. This is the reason behind Jesus' saying of “not my will but my father's”. I am saved not by my free will but because my…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 04 2008,18:37)seeking truth……….all your choices are a result of what has been already installed in your mind. The definition of Free Choice is to choose something without (ANY) influence derived from past association of (any) kind.  Because if your were influenced by something the it was not a Free Choice but an…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 04 2008,10:33)(Shaking head…..),Keith and other's,When you understand something as basic as conception (hello people), there need not be any fancy definition.  However I did pull one from a dictionary for those who would like to see it in writing.Also, if you want to nit-pick definitions then you would have to go back and…[Read more]

Why brother, Nick you want catch silly things and argue?Please see the totallity not in fragments as Gene was telling.Adam

Yes you are right, ultimately Jesus is the one whom we have to follow to reach that One God.ThanksAdam