Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 04 2014,10:24)Quote (gadam123 @ June 03 2014,00:06)……..one has to understand Jesus' origins in the light of Monotheism of God which does not permit any other god being besides God Himself.The scriptures are LOADED with many different gods, Adam.I mean, how could Jehovah be the God OF gods if He is LITERALLY the ONLY…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 03 2014,18:30)Hi ,God spoke about His son several times from the Jordan onwards.Folk prefer their own theoriesRightly said it brother Nick rest of the references to the son only in prophetic utterances and they always point towards future events..

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 30 2014,04:17)Gadam…………the man Jesus was did not exist tell he came into existence as a second Adam, a flesh and blood human being, who came into existence just as we did, it makes not difference if God manipulated his DNA, he also manipulated Eves DNA or she would have been a CLONE of Adam andNot been a female…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2014,12:02)Hi MB,1 Yes. The Spirit said so through Jesus2. No the Spirit inhabits flesh. Jesus was filled with the Spirit made one with the Spirit.3. No the Spirit is invisible so as with the unclean spirits the vessel does the speaking.4. Jesus, one with the Spirit by anointing at the Jordan, being born of Mary is the…[Read more]

A spirit being can never become a true human being for example all angels are spirit beings and immortals so they become mortal is against their nature. I can't imagine here-Jesus, if at all he was a spirit being prior to his birth as human birth how could he become a mortal being?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2014,04:19)Quote (gadam123 @ May 25 2014,00:55)…….what kind of human that Jesus can be if he was pre-existing prior to his birth? Can he be real human like you and me who are born with Adamic nature likely to be tempted and possibility of sinning?Adam, God can make children of Abraham out of stones.  If God did so,…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ May 26 2014,19:08)Quote (Wakeup @ May 26 2014,18:23)Quote (Ed J @ May 26 2014,18:08)Hi Wakeup,The spirit that Jesus was born with was “the spirit of Christ”The spirit that Jesus was baptized with was God's HolySpirit.Do you agree or disagree? if you disagree, please state why?EdJ.I disagree.The spirit of the Word is the HS.The…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 26 2014,05:13)Quote (gadam123 @ May 25 2014,01:03)The question here- was Jesus literally pre-existed his birth? All verses you quoted are indirect references to pre-existence.Hi Adam,The list Pierre quoted for you is quite substantial.  But your take is that these verses are “indirect references”.  We, on the other hand, s…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2014,00:09)Gadam 123.I really believe that I can have a healthy dialogue with you.And will will spend my time.God we know; is from ever lasting.Therefore His Word is also from everlasting.John Says: In the beginning was the Word.And the Word Was with God And the Word was God.This has been the confusing part in this world.How…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 25 2014,03:05)Gadam…….I see it like brother Nick , i believe Jesus came into existence as a ordinary human being just as we did, a ordinary human being who God chose to be the first human to become perfected and be resurrected back to life from the grave from humanity and enter the kingdom of God and inherit eternal…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2014,23:33)gadam123it would be good for you to visit the topic 'preexisting 1' and follow the discussion there and #2Hello Terraricca,Thanks for your response to my post. I know about part1 of this wonderful debate which was started by Mandy. I am also aware of the verses you quoted for supporting pre-existence. My…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2014,08:09)Quote (gadam123 @ May 24 2014,00:48)The birth narratives of Jesus never speak about his anointing……. Adam, any scripture that speaks about the CHRIST being born is speaking about God's ANOINTED ONE being born.Those scriptures never speak about the one WHO WILL SOMEDAY BE THE CHRIST being born.He was the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,20:35)Hi gadam,Jesus became the second adam, the firstborn of the new creation of God of men living in the Spirit.He is now the source of the Spirit of eternal life for all those chosen to be savedThanks for that explanation. But what is this 'first born of all creation?' If you say it was spirit – how can a spirit…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,20:45)Hi gadam, Perhaps others should contribute?But remember scripture says he was a man, he was conceived, he was anointed with the Holy Spirit and power.Not a god or a sentient being with a headstart over us. Those are the ideas of the lost We can follow himI really appreciate that and I see more broad mind in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,18:00)Hi Gadam, No he was a very ordinary man. Is 53 He was known to folk in his town and they were shocked to see the change Mt 13.54fHe was known prophetically as the ChristThe question here is what is the point of his anointing by God?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,19:37)Hi Gadam, Read the descriptions of the death of Jesus on calvary and you will see his human spirit left him as happens when all die. But the Spirit of the living God gave him life in the Spirit till he was raised again in his original body to fulfill the sign of JonahGood to note that..how about Jesus…[Read more]

Hello brother Nick, I appreciate your response I want you to elaborate what you believe and not a single quotations.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,18:29)Hi gadam, Yes.All reborn of water and the Spirit.Thank you

Pre-existence used to be the pet topic of Sis Mandy and is the one who started this longest topic after Trinity. I don't know where she is now. 'Did Jesus pre-exist his birth?' is quite fascinating to me. Our NT is quite ambiguous on this subject. Here we are talking about man Jesus- was he somebody prior to his birth as human being on this earth?…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,18:02)Hi gadam, Not the same . The Word is the Spirit of Christ-of and one with the Spirit of GodThanks for such agreement I too believe this. The problem with many here is they confuse the word 'Spirit of Christ' with 'spirit of Jesus'. As an individual Jesus should have his own spirit and he shares God's Spirit…[Read more]