gadam123 replied to the topic Christian writers Misquoting Texts – What does Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
For our purposes it is sufficient to examine one example of Hebrews’ textual manipulation:7 the use of Psalm 8 in Heb 2:5–9. Psalm 8 is a master-piece of poetic reflection, using the immensity and beauty of the night sky to emphasize the paradoxical status of human beings.
When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers,
the moon and the…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Christian writers Misquoting Texts – What does Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
Epistle to Hebrews:
In Hebrews we see a sophisticated attempt to correlate the revelation God gave in the past with God’s final revelation in Christ. Since the same God has spoken through both Christ and the prophets, the author of Hebrews can look to the prophets for clues to understand Christ and equally to Christ for clues to understand the p…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Christian writers Misquoting Texts – What does Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
Berean :
Paul don’t speak specificaly of Ishmael as a person but of His posterity as a people.
So WE must beleive Paul’s writings AND DO NOT WALL.
But Paul clearly compared Jewish people of his time with Ishmael and Christian believers with Isaac.
gadam123 replied to the topic Christian writers Misquoting Texts – What does Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
Berean: You don’t believe that Jesus is the Savior of the world do you?
How does it mater when God alone is the savior of this world?
gadam123 replied to the topic Jesus did not pre-exist in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
Jodi:
The NT does not teach at all that Jesus pre-existed, you are aligning your interpretations of the above passages incorrectly and just as those who believe in pre-existence do.
I will go through those passages with you and show you how they do not teach pre-existence and how they align with the OT.
Hi Jodi, thanks for your lengthy…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Jesus did not pre-exist in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
It’s the devil who makes you believe what you say. Do not believe it. The old and the new testament is the truth, dare to believe it; they are ONE as THE FATHER AND THE SON ARE ONE. HAVE NO FEAR FOR THIS.
He Berean, the so called Devil was the another invention by the NT writers which does not have support in the Hebrew scriptures. The s…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Preexistence in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 10 months ago
Gadam answer:
WHO IS “HIM” and “HE” in the above?
GOD?
JESUS CHRIST? or both
GOD and JESUS CHRIST?
TWO IN ONE FLESH
As they were before the creation of all!Hi Carmel, you are asking answer from me. Yes I have already quoted in my posts that God alone is the sole creator of the universe there was no one else with him. And also that God a…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Preexistence in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 10 months ago
Berean: There are enough biblical passages that show the divinity and humanity of the Son of God. Why close to this evidence and get stuck.
Hello Berean, I have brought the arguments on the Hebrew scriptures you quoted to support Trinity or Binity. There may be multiple scriptures to support the mythological nature of Jesus stating 100% God and…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Christian writers Misquoting Texts – What does Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
Adam….You see how just a simple word (the) added by trinitarian translators to the text changes the whole context to what Paul was saying? My point is we need to be care what book writers say, because it might have been the translators that changed things in scriptures and not the authors themselves.
Hello brother Gene, thanks for commenting on m…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Christian writers Misquoting Texts – What does Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
Quoting Paul the Apostle:
Romans 10:18 (Psalm 19:4): Paul’s exposition of the universal availability of salvation pivots on his fa-mous declaration that “if you confess with your lips that Jesus is lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved” (Rom 10:9). Since salvation depends on confession and belie…[Read more]
gadam123 started the topic Christian writers Misquoting Texts – What does Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
The claim of Paul and the New Testament authors is that Jesus fulfilled many prophecies connected to the Hebrew Scriptures (so-called Old Testament) and a true believer will easily be able to see them. The gospel according to Matthew, in particular, attempts to cross-reference the miraculous birth, deeds, and proclamations attributed to Jesus with…[Read more]
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The claim of Paul and the New Testament authors is that Jesus fulfilled many prophecies connected to the Hebrew Scriptures (so-called Old Testament) and a true believer will easily be able to see them. The gospel according to Matthew, in particular, attempts to cross-reference the miraculous birth, deeds, and proclamations attributed to Jesus with…[Read more]
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gadam123 replied to the topic Preexistence in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 10 months ago
Berean:
Yet Genesis says
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Jesus did not pre-exist in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
Berean: I pity you Gadam for being in such a situation of theological confusion. May God help you.
Thank you for your pity…but I am not in any theological confusion. I am learning the actual confusion created by the NT writers to invent a new religion by deviating from the original religion of Hebrew Bible.
gadam123 replied to the topic Preexistence in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 10 months ago
Hi Berean, Carmel and others,
I am not new to this. I was born as Trinitarian Christian and am on continuous struggle to understand the concept of God in the New Testament. But I am more confused on the nature and person of Jesus which is found in the NT writings. So I started unlearning every thing and started afresh from Zero and now learned…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Preexistence in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 10 months ago
Hello brother Gene thanks for your lengthy post pointing to me. You said;
I try to apply that principle and when there appears a contradiction between the old and the new, most all the time it is in the New Testament and the Greek wording the translators used , words like “dia”. Which can be taken in several different ways, And unders…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Jesus did not pre-exist in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
So you are Binitarian. Why left out the Third person?
I am not new to this. I was born as Trinitarian Christian and am on continous struggle to understand the concept of God in the New Testament. But I am more confused on the nature and person of Jesus which is found in the NT writings. So I started unlearning every thing and started afresh from…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Jesus did not pre-exist in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
Berean:Perhaps one day, if you really seek the truth, you will understand that it is the truth. THE NEW TESTAMENT DOES NOT VOID THE OLD, IT COMPLETES AND ENLARGES IT AND BRINGS IT TO PERFECTION.
I AM NOT FOR THE CATHO TRINITY. ONLY THE FATHER AND THE SON SHOULD BE EXALTED.So you are Binitarian. Why left out the Third person?
I am not new to…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Jesus did not pre-exist in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
Brean: Perhaps one day, if you really seek the truth, you will understand that it is the truth. THE NEW TESTAMENT DOES NOT VOID THE OLD, IT COMPLETES AND ENLARGES IT AND BRINGS IT TO PERFECTION.
I AM NOT FOR THE CATHO TRINITY. ONLY THE FATHER AND THE SON SHOULD BE EXALTED.So you are Binitarian. Why left out the Third person. Nothing new for me I…[Read more]
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