Hi Berean, thanks for your continuous posts on this thread.

You: Peter, James and John  were  the    “some standing here ” who will not taste death until they see that the kingdom of God has come with power” WHEN THEY  saw Jesus glorified BEFORE THEM.

Me: So you think that Peter, James and John could visualize the Parousia of Jesus coming in…[Read more]

Hi proclaimer, sorry some thing happened when I was replying your post. I lost the text I have posted for the First verse was deleted. Anyhow here I am quoting it again.

You: The first verse is said to be fulfilled at the transfiguration. There Jesus, Moses, and Elijah are standing in Heavenly glory with the Father speaking. This is a taste of…[Read more]

Hi proclaimer, thanks for your thoughtful and detailed reply to my post. I appreciate your patience and care in replying my queries.

You: It is certainly possible that this could be the case. But I am not convinced about it. Paul discusses the idea that he will go to be with the LORD, but for the sake of the Church that he would ask God to stay…[Read more]

For Mikeboll64….

Invitation to participate in the debate on the following threads as we are deviating from the topic  John 1:1;

1. Christian writers Misquoting Texts – What does Hebrew Bible really say?
2. Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say?
3. Question of Parousia of Jesus – how Christianity manage the dilemma?

Invitation for Mikeboll64…..if you are so much interested to debate on the scriptures of Hebrew Bible you are most welcome on this new thread.

But please go through my initial posts before posting.

Thank you….Adam

Hi Mike,

You: Even IF the Messiah was still forthcoming, there is absolutely nothing in the OT that says what you claim.  God can make children of Abraham from stones, so your forthcoming Messiah could have pre-existed as a rock before God causes him to be born of a descendent of David… if that’s the way God chooses to do it. Or he could alre…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You: Why would the people you quoted add the word “royal” to the scripture?  God spoke (through Micah) about one who would come in the future, but whose origins were from ancient times.  Not “royal origins”.  Plus, the House of David was still active when Micah prophesied… not something “of old, from days of yore.

Me: Because Micah…[Read more]

Hi All, Here is how an ex-pastor gives replies to Christian queries.

BUT MY NEW TESTAMENT SAYS IT’S A FULFILLED PROPHECY…YOU MEAN ITS NOT?

I can remember my shock the first time a friend of mine, whom I respect very much, mentioned to me that almost all of the many prophecies in the New Testament which are believed to be “fulfilled proph…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

You: John the beloved of the Lord is indeed an eyewitness of the Messiah and he wrote the book of Revelation, the three epistles, and the gospel which are part of the NT.

Me: No the writer of Fourth Gospel was not eye witness please.

“The phrase the disciple whom Jesus loved (Greek: ὁ μαθητὴς ὃν ἠγάπα ὁ Ἰησοῦς, ho mathētēs…[Read more]

The So-called “Virgin Birth”

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Christians have always argued for Jesus’ virgin birth, but also argue he was descended from David. Nevertheless, this overlooks that if virgin born, Jesus’ ‘father’ Joseph, albeit descended from David, would have had no connection with his conception, and his only human connection would…[Read more]

Hello brother Gene,

You: Adam……I see brother Proclaimer. some times as, half way in and half way out, he can also force us to think, but I do believe,   he nearly always means well, even though he can get a little testy as we all can at times,  but remember what Jesus said , ” have salt in yourselves” “and”  have peace among you also”.…[Read more]

The Seventy Weeks of Daniel 9

I’m curious to know the Jewish understanding of Daniel 9:24-27. It seems such a clear reference to Jesus that I don’t understand how Jewish scholars can disagree. It speaks of the Messiah who will live 483 years after Daniel’s time. He will be cut off (i.e., crucified) but not for his sake (v. 26), and He will make…[Read more]

Hello brother Gene,

You: Adam…..it doesn’t bother me , because I understand, no one here has “all’ the truth. Because as Paul said we now see in part as looking through an obscure glass,  but in that day we shall “all” see clearly, so we all lack some things brother.  We are told to “grow” in grace “and” knowledge, which means we don’t have it…[Read more]

Hello brother Gene,

You: Adam,…… the people of Jesus’ day knew exactly when the messiah was to be born,  they even told king Herod . They were not ignorant to the time mentioned in Scriptures of his berth, by the Prophet Daniel,  So if you disbelieve that Jesus was the true Messiah, then please tell us who was the “Messiah”  at that time period…[Read more]

Hi Danny

You: Really?
These verses are saying that Jesus is the Messiah.
I didn’t make it up.
You can’t stand the truth

Me: The verses you quoted from 1 John are words of it’s writer to defend his other earlier writing which some of his reader misunderstood. They did not prove Jesus as Messiah.

Denying Father and son is another defence way of …[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You: You are being emotional. I am simply stating things as they are to be judged according to what we have received in the New Testament. We are to be wary of false teachers. Those that preach a false gospel and another Jesus. We know that the Spirit of Antichrist makes it’s adherents deny the Father and the Son. They also deny t…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You: The Old Testament talks about the messiah. When the messiah came, he didn’t meet some people’s expectations. He wasn’t sent to satisfy human expectations though.

Scripture says he would be rejected and that he was.

Many people still reject him to this day.

When he returns, he will find many are also not prepared to meet h…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You: Think about it. There is God. He is alone. There is no other God before him.

He creates life. Who was the first to be given life?

Surely that life would be blessed. A kind of first-born of all creation.

Is it feasible that God created all things for this first life?

Me: So you think God created Jesus first of all and…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You: You could make that same argument that Isaiah 54 is a continuation and 55 and so on. But we know that the scriptures talk about things and move on to related things. Like the prophecy about the King of Tyre and then the Price of Tyre. Many miss the change or transition. Also, some scriptures may well talk about one thing, but…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You: People who believe in a messiah and that Jesus is not that messiah usually have an expectation in their mind of a messiah. Of course, the messiah is not going to meet these kinds of expectations, so he will be rejected by carnal men.

Me: There is no question of belief in a Messiah as per the Hebrew Bible but only waiting for…[Read more]