Do you think that God, the Father can bring forth a Son from His own eternal uncreated essence?

or

Do you believe that the Son can only come forth from essence that did not exist at one point and thus created essence?

These are the two questions floating from the very beginnings of Christianity and caused great controversy at the time of Council…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

When Christ died all the disciples were stunned regardless of what Old Testament knowledge they had …
And although Jesus had instructed them of his impending death on several occasions, they had a moment of discouragement.

That is the fate of our NT writings. They wanted us to imagine every thing and every type of strange ideas on Jesus.

Hi Berean,

Luke 24:

20 and how our chief priests and leaders handed him over to be condemned to death and crucified him. 21 But we had hoped that he was the one to redeem Israel. Yes, and besides all this, it is now the third day since these things took place.

Please see the verse 21, it is clear that these unknown disciples were not aware of Isa…[Read more]

Proclaimer….Jesus was the finished  ‘prototype’ of God the fathers human creation the  “finished” product for all his “human” creation.  We are all in a developing process, And Jesus is the first human being to achieve that Goal, which God had in mind for his whole human creation in the beginning,  remember, Jesus said “you must be born again”…

[Read more]

Hi Mike,

Your post:

And I have shown you that God can, right this very minute, cause Michael the archangel to be conceived on earth through a human woman who is of the lineage of King David.  And doing so would fit every single prophesy about the Messiah. So it’s okay to say that the Messiah will be flesh and of David’s lineage.  It’s not okay to…

[Read more]

Hi proclaimer,

You:

You have been given that already. The messiah would suffer and bring salvation as well as reign as king. Men are impatient and look for the latter only. But God is not a man and God is patient. He is eternal. A thousand years is as a day to him. The reason men want Isaiah 53 to be about Israel and not the messiah is because…

[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You:

In scripture, two men (Enoch and Elijah) did not suffer death.  Jesus said there would be others (as in NOT Enoch and Elijah) who wouldn’t taste death.  My understanding is that these others ( as in NOT Enoch and Elijah) are those who are now under the altar in heaven, awaiting God’s judgment of their brutal deaths for staying true…

[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You:

As mentioned before. The messiah would suffer and bring salvation as well as reign as king. Men are impatient and look for the latter only. But God is not a man and God is patient. He is eternal. A thousand years is as a day to him. The reason men want Isaiah 53 to be about Israel and not the messiah is because they would then…

[Read more]

Here is how one argues based on the Hebrew Bible that Christian Jesus did not fulfill the requirement of Jewish Messiah post.

Messiah Wanted!

I.    Introduction

Christianity is based on the claim that Jesus is the Messiah who fulfilled all the prophecies in the Hebrew Bible.  In fact, many Christian missionary websites list hundreds of “O…[Read more]

Hi Danny, Please don’t post such personalised messages on this thread. If you can please discuss on the subject matter of the thread.

Thank you.

Hi Carmel thanks for your lengthy reply to my post.

You:

Gadam, I ASKED YOU: Are you in the position to reveal Abraham’s birth and his childhood from THE JEWISH LITERATURE?

Isaac is the second less mysterious, AS A FIRSTBORN,  ALWAYS  KEEP IN MIND BY GOD’S MYSTERIOUS INTERVENTION, as reading Genesis hereunder, always through THE LIGHT from the H…

[Read more]

Hi Berean, thanks for your advice and warning but here is the struggle of a Christian, her name is Kathy in this Forum under the user name ‘LightenUP’  on the thread called “Who is the High God?”;

Nick,
I gave you scriptures and you blow them off as if Christ was not aware that His followers were worshiping Him and then you come up with the idea…

[Read more]

Hi Berean, thanks for posting on the Book of Daniel.

If you really want to know the TRUTH ABOUT THE BOOK OF DANIEL RELATED TO THE ETERNAL GOSPEL

Me: It is the wrong interpretation of SDA Church. This is not new to me even I am having my Co-brother who is from SDA Church. The interpretation of Little horn of Dan 7 to Papacy is another invention by…[Read more]

The Four Kingdoms and Other Chronological Conceptions in the Book of Daniel

1 Introduction:

The four kingdoms scheme plays a prominent role in the book of Daniel itself, and lies at the foundation of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream in chapter 2 and Daniel’s vision in chapter 7. The motif of four earthly empires followed by a heavenly kingdom, whose roo…[Read more]

Hello brother Gene thanks again for your patience replying my posts.

You:

And giving false accounts of what took place and was said,  but give no consideration to how this those things may have been altered during translation,  by translators,  but ignores that completely, and makes his point that it was the “original writers ” themselves that d…

[Read more]

Yes you are right brother it seems COVID19 was man made. How pathetic it would be if it is proved. What havoc it has created on our lives especially in India. We lost many loved ones and many Christian Pastors and believers. It is so much deadly and fearful. Life is so much miserable here. The death count already crossed 300,000 by now in India…[Read more]

Hi Mike, I have shifted your query to me on John1:1 to this thread as we are debating on Messiah.

You:

gadam: I have quoted number of verses from Hebrew Bible for proving that Messiah has to be a normal human being and will be the seed of David.

And I have shown you that God can, right this very minute, cause Michael the archangel to be…

[Read more]

Hello brother Gene, thanks for your lengthy post to me.

You: Mar 10: 5-6…..These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter you not. (6) But go rather to the “lost sheep of the house of Israel” .
Jesusally  did not consider the Jew of his day as lost, sh…[Read more]

Hi Mike,  thanks for coming to this new thread on Parousia.

You: Matt 16: 27 “For the Son of Man is to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay everyone for what has been done. 28 Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kin…[Read more]

The Dating of the Book of Daniel

Although it does not actually claim to have been written in the sixth century BCE, the Book of Daniel gives clear internal dates such as “the third year of the reign of king Jehoiakim,” (1:1), that is, 606 BCE); “the second year of the reign of king Nebuchadnezzar, ” (2:1), that is, 603 BCE); “the first year of…[Read more]