Hi Proclaimer,

Wrong. Name your no1 NT verse that supports the Trinity?

I am sorry I have not mentioned any Trinity in my post but I have stated that our NT supports deviated ideas on God. For example 2 Cor 13:13

 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with all of you.

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Hi Sis Kathi,

 I believe that the eternal creator God is YHVH which consists of the Father, Son, and their Spirit.

I am not surprised about your statement above. But Hebrew Bible does not support these ideas on God Yahweh. I know our NT had created problem for us to believe all these strange ideas. This is where I am not convinced on these…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You seem to believe that only one person is both God of gods as well as Lord of lords. Why do you disagree with Paul in 1 Cor 8:6 who says that we have one God and one Lord and they are two persons?
But LU, you believe two are God and two are Lord. You also err.

Thanks for replying LU on my post. Yes she is believing that there are…[Read more]

Hi gadam123,

You can put the discussion there. However, the unity of the Godhead is important in John 1:1 as well as we see two who are both called “God.” You decide

I have already posted my reply on “The Most High God”. You can reply there as we are going to have much discussion on the ‘High God’ as initiated by you.

Heiser, Michael, “Are Yahweh and El Distinct Deities in Deut. 32:8-9 and Psalm 82?”

Introduction
The polytheistic nature of pre-exilic Israelite religion and Israel’s gradual evolution toward monotheism are taken as axiomatic in current biblical scholarship. This evolution, according to the consensus view, was achieved through the zealous commit…[Read more]

The Most High God?

Deuteronomy 32:8-9 is the most challenging passage to defend in the Bible.

Yes, I know it’s a somewhat obscure passage to pick out for that title, but, at least for me, I find it to be true. First, let’s look at the passage itself: “When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all mankind, he set u…[Read more]

Hi Sis Kathi,

You seem to assume that YHVH is one person only, as opposed to two or three persons who are members of a fullness of God called YHVH.

For example,

Deut 10:17 tells us that YHVH is God of gods and Lord of lords. You seem to believe that only one person is both God of gods as well as Lord of lords. Why do you disagree with Paul in 1…

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Hi Sis Kathi,

You seem to assume that YHVH is one person only, as opposed to two or three persons who are members of a fullness of God called YHVH.

For example,

Deut 10:17 tells us that YHVH is God of gods and Lord of lords. You seem to believe that only one person is both God of gods as well as Lord of lords. Why do you disagree with Paul in 1…

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Hi Danny,

Gadam,

Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one:

Mark 12:29 Jesus answered, “The greatest is, ‘Hear, Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one:

Yes that was the apt statement by Jesus. But why other NT writings deviated from this conviction of Jesus?

Hi Sis Kathi,

You said:

While God the Father is the One called “Lord of lords” in Deuteronomy 10:17 and in Psalms, the New Testament writers use the same title to refer to Jesus Christ. This is the change I am questioning.
Deuteronomy 10:17 doesn’t use “Father” in that verse anywhere. That is your assumption.

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Hello brother Gene,

Adam…..That was good for incite on how the idea of a resurrection from the grave was originally introduced into our scriptures.  I also believe in a resurrection of the complete “Soul”,  “our flesh body with the Spirit of life in it”, just as it was originally created by God the Father in the first place .  And of course the ki…

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Hi Berean,

Gadam

1Corinthians 8:5,6

For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

That’s enough for me

Yes that is very easy c…[Read more]

To Jews and Christians: Deuteronomy 32:8-9 is the most challenging passage to defend in the Bible.

Yes, I know it’s a somewhat obscure passage to pick out for that title, but, at least for me, I find it to be true. First, let’s look at the passage itself: “When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all mankind, he set…[Read more]

Heiser, Michael, “Are Yahweh and El Distinct Deities in Deut. 32:8-9 and Psalm 82?”

Introduction
The polytheistic nature of pre-exilic Israelite religion and Israel’s gradual evolution toward monotheism are taken as axiomatic in current biblical scholarship. This evolution, according to the consensus view, was achieved through the zealous c…[Read more]

Hi Sis Kathi,

Thanks gadam123!

Can you tell me who is God of gods and Lord of lords?

My outlook as a believer:

We know there is only one Lord (Yahweh) God, but sometimes the Bible references other gods and lords. For example, in Deuteronomy 10:17 we find, “The LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and a…[Read more]

Hello brother Gene,

Adam…..I believe your post have some possibilities, but the whole issue I have with it is the idea it is not talking about dead bodies,  even David was dead at that time, and would have to have a new body in order to regain again over Israel. And all those dead Israelites would need new bodies also in order to stand on their fe…

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THE LAST AND FINAL SACRIFICE

I. INTRODUCTION
Christianity claim that those who do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior, which includes the Jewish people, are doomed to burn in “hell” because they cannot have their sins forgiven by God. This claim is rationalized with the allegation that, in Biblical times, the only way to bring about the rem…[Read more]

Hello brother Gene,

Adam….Actually it doesn’t, brother,  because the Hebrew bible does contain a large section on the resurrection of Flesh bodies from the grave.  Please read Ezk 37: 1-14, that whole chapter shows clearly there is a physical resurrection from the gave that will take place for “the whole house of Israel”.

I know you will certa…[Read more]

Lev 17:11 Does blood alone atones ?

I.   INTRODUCTION

According to Christian theology, the “Fall of Man”, i.e., the sin of Adam and Eve, who ate from the forbidden fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, has infected all humanity with a stain that ended “eternal life”. Christians point to the ordinary animal sacrifices described…[Read more]

Hello brother Gene,

Adam…..I believe wisdom is one of the seven spirits of God, through which he uses in his creating process.  It always existed in the beginning just as the rest of the Seven  Spirits of God also did,  wisdom is just one of the attributes of God, probably the most important, and is easily seem in all of God’s whole creati…

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