Likewise, we know that the Word was theos means the Word was divine as there is no definite article in John 1:1c.

Hi Proclaimer, I keep on hear this from the mouth of many non-trinitarians. I wonder how they differentiate ‘the word’ from ‘word’? Similarly how divine is different from God? So you want to differentiate your self from Trinitarians…[Read more]

Mike
John 1:3 give the answer
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
HIM = THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD

This is the fate of the NT it contradicts its own Christology. I hope Mike and other non-trinitarians will notice this problem. They also believe Jesus’ preexistence as the word in the beginning with…[Read more]

Hi Berean, it is the the interpretation of SDA Church and Christianity on Dan 9:24-27 not Jewish one.

Is Daniel 9:24-27 about Jesus?

Like I said, I speak of one YHVH who is two persons, not two persons who are of different YHVH families. There is one family of YHVH. The Father and His Son are the two members with eternal and divine essence. Do you think that Proclaimer and Mike don’t believe that there is a family of YHVH?

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Do you believe that there is a family of God? If so, who are the members of that family?

Hi Sis Kathi, thanks for your reply to my post. But sorry I have not found any thing on the family of God in the Hebrew Bible.

Can you be more specific? Also, it is not my desire to spend much time on here for years to win “against” anyone, that would not be…

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ADAM…….This is what God said,

Isa 50:1…..Thus saith the LORD, Where is the bill of your mother’s divorcement, “whom I have put away? Or which of my creditors is it, to whom I have sold her?,  Behold for your iniquities have , “YOU” SOLD YOURSELVES, and for “YOUR TRANSGRESSIONS ”  IS YOUR MOTHER PUT-AWAY.

That is the way I see it,  and I SEE NO ,…

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One question to you Adam, do you see in the NT that the Father is also identifying His
Son as YHVH? I’m not asking you if you agree that the Son is also YHVH, I’m just asking if you agree that it appears that way specifically from Heb. 1. Please just give me a “yes” or a “no.”

LU

P.S. I’ll respond to your comment about winning “against” non…

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Adam……Every person, nation, fathers and sons,  are brought in judgement for their own sin, not the sin of another,  Israel, and Judah,  transgressed greatly against their God,  they were not now or then being used as a “suffering servant ” of God.  Read the blessings and cursing, given them in Lev 26:14-42.  God said he would bring on them for t…

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Suffering Messiah was not known to Jews of Jesus’ time the same is clearly evident even in the earliest strands of the NT writings. Here are few such verses;

1 Cor 1:

23 but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,

Here Paul clearly knew that suffering Messiah was not accepted by the Jews of his ti…[Read more]

Adam……The one who persecuted And cast Israel out of their land was God himself,  and he used the Assyrians to do it, because of all their unfaithfulness to him. Adam,   Don’t let them make you  think they were this ” Holy” pious,  persecuted servant, people of God,  because that is far from the truth.

Jer 3:8…..And I saw  when for all the cause…

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Adam, do you know the saying “hindsight is 20/20”?

If not, it is explained here:

It is easier to clearly reevaluate past actions or decisions than when they are being made or done; things are clearer or more obvious when they are reflected upon. A reference to the visual acuity of normal eyesight (20/20 vis…

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Hi Proclaimer,

This refers to the Messiah’s first coming and rejection. No mystery here. Jesus is the only one who fulfilled this prophecy.

As per Hebrew Bible there are no two comings of Messiah it is purely Christian creation. Coming to Isaiah 53 as I quoted in other thread it is not about any Messiah. Here again I am quoting the arguments on I…[Read more]

Adam……The exact time of the coming of the Messiah written  by Daniel, was given to the Jewish King Herod  by the Jewish scribes themselves, that is why he went about killing the Male children under two years old in Jerusalem, sure seems they know when the Messiah would be born right? How do the Jews disclaim that fact in their denial of Jesus…

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The Divine Council motif in the Hebrew Bible

§1. The Ugaritic and Canaanite Background to the Divine Council
It is generally accepted that Israelite religion “was much closer to Canaanite religion” than to the religion that the Hebrew Bible advocates (Cook 2005: 7). It is most likely that Israelite religion was directly influenced by, and deve…[Read more]

Paul understands the Father is also our “kurios” Lord, and Paul understands that Jesus is also our theos. In the context of 1 Cor 8:6, Paul is identifying two persons who are our God and Lord. In the NT when the context is speaking about the Father and the Son, they are typically distinguished as God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. That doe…

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Yes it is about YHVH of hosts Himself, it is also about you because you are stumbling over the truth that Jesus is the Rock of Offense in Isaiah 8. I’m sorry to say that you, Adam, are among the many that shall stumble and fall and be broken and be snared, and be taken, v. 8:15. You are not alone here in that. Most of the members here are s…

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Christianity Offers No Answers About the Coronavirus ?

For many Christians, the coronavirus-induced limitations on life have arrived at the same time as Lent, the traditional season of doing without. But the sharp new regulations—no theater, schools shutting, virtual house arrest for us over-70s—make a mockery of our little Lenten disc…[Read more]

James Dunn’s conclusion in Christology in the Making that there is ‘little or no good evidence from the period prior to Christianity’s beginnings that the Ancient Near East seriously entertained the idea of a god or son of god descending from heaven to become a human being in order to bring man salvation, except perhaps at the level of popular…

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Hi Proclaimer, thanks for your good luck.

Gadam has no hope if he rejects Jesus.his body, and the New Testament. Why? Because the Old Testament has no gospel to the Gentiles. That is because the plan of God was to work theough Israel, then for the messiah to cone, then to work through anyone who us willing.

Unless you are Jewish gadam where is…

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