Rejecting Jesus as the firstborn of all creation is to reject his headship and the headship of Christ which is God.

This is something strange concept on Messiah if Jesus was a real one as per the Hebrew Bible.

Adam the Old Testament is a spiritually written book, what makes you think it is not? ,  there is no difference between the books, they both are full of Spiritually written things. and yes they both have some translation problems I agree,  but over all they both are fairly accurate, and both are spiritually driven and written books.   IMO

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At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank Thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and earth, because Thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. – Jesus Christ

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Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in this age, he should become a fool, so that he may become wise. For the wisd…

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I think before you post long speeches in an attempt to dazzle or baffle people, you probably should check these basic things out first. I didn’t get very far in your post before a correction was warranted.

Hi Proclaimer, I too know the statement but the historians don’t believe what you and I believe and  they are neutral people. So they see th…[Read more]

1/ Punishment by exile from the holy Land for 2730 years. Ezekiel 4:4-6, Lev. 26:18-28 – 390 X 7 = 2730. From about 712 BC to about 2020 AD

The House of Judah has returned, but the House of Israel remains in exile.

2/ 2 days = 2000 years. Psalms 90:4, 2 Peter 3:8

3/ The 1000 year Millennial reign of Jesus. Revelation 20:6, Luke 13:32

4/ The t…

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Supposed Messianic Prophecies of Early Date

We begin with the passage which from early times has been regarded as the oldest Messianic prophecy, namely Gen. 3: 15, which refers to the offspring of the woman, who will bruise the serpent’s head with his heel. It is now generally admitted by those who adopt the historical approach to theology that…[Read more]

Adam:  Sorry no such expectation of Virgin born Messiah by the Hebrews please.

Proclaimer: Young girl.

Mike:
Isaiah 7:14… Therefore the LORD Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

So let us think logically.

In what way would an ordinary woman giving an ordinary birt…

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So my question to Adam:  In what way would YHWH’s prophecy any kind of a sign if it only required a regular woman to bear a regular son in the regular manner?

We can discuss this Virgin Birth on its main thread. I will post the reply to your query there.

Question:
Not being a Jew or a “Jew for Jesus,” I am confused by this “blood sacrifice” argument between the two groups. I am trying to understand. I believe in Christ and am a Christian. I agree with your assessment that the offering the Lord truly wants is a broken heart and contrite spirit full of repentance. I also believe that “blood…[Read more]

This is not personal but is about the collective. If you could be forgiven for all sin, then why the need for the shedding of blood to cover sin in the OT?

The soul that sins will still die. The price of sin is death. And so it is we die. All the while, God can still forgive a nation. But death remains in the end for each person.

If prayer is…

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I knew the following before this discussion took place.

Satan is the adversary of God. A chief being or the chief being who opposes God;
satan is adversary. Can be applied to anybody who thwarts the purposes of God. Jesus once rebuked Peter with this word.
This hasn’t changed. I still hold this view.

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Why?

I request that you and say gene talk about the evolution of the platypus.

Why not.

Ha ha …Gene is not in my group. In fact he is a hardcore Christian who always hate and blame Jewish people for the death of Jesus. I only requested you too stick to the topic as we both had deviated much from the topic which is being watched by Princess too..

Please see this Video on Blood Atonement…

Have you sinned gadam?

How will you be saved?

What is your hope?

Again you are struck at the NT’s strange ideas of Vicarious Atonement. Then your ‘Amen’ to Ezek 18 is meaningless.

The messiah came.

You are at least 2000 years behind the plan.

First the law then grace.

You have rejected grace.

Hi Proclaimer, thanks for your replies to my posts and also conveying ‘Amen’ to my comments on Ezekiel 18.

But I am not agreeing with your logics of the so called ‘first Law then Grace’. It was purely the interpretation of Paul…[Read more]

I request Proclaimer and Pricess to share some thing on the topic ‘Evolution of Satan’.

Mike:

Upon his ascension to heaven, Gene.  Jesus was raised from the dead in the same flesh body in which he died.  He dwelled on earth in that same body for another 30 days after his resurrection.  Then he ascended to heaven before the eyes of the disciples.  But we know from scripture that flesh can neither inherit nor even enter the kin…

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The soul that sins will die. You will die. We all will die. Is that it. The God of the cosmos will let us all eternally die. Never to have life again.

We have a glorious hope because we accepted the messiah. What is your hope gadam?

Your Messiah is a mythical figure not the original Messiah talked in the Hebrew Bible. So what type of hope is this…[Read more]

As for myths being weaved into the NT that are not present in the OT. What is the first myth that comes to mind?

The so called preexistence of the Messiah and making him divine or god. What else you need?

That the law condemns and we pray forever and ask for forgiveness? If so, how do we know your interpretation is not a misinterpretation? Do you have special revelation or something?

What is this repeated ‘condemnation’ my friend? I think you are struck at Paul’s idea of treating the Torah as obsolete. Yes asking forgiveness is a continuous process…[Read more]