Pierre: That post above is incorrect!! The term flesh and blood is referring to a carnal way to God. Its in reference to the old testament law. Romans 8:1….There is therefore now no condemnation(judgment) to them which are in Christ Jesus(by faith) who walk, not after the flesh(old cove. laws, rules, rituals etc.,) but after the Spirit.(words of…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2011,07:23)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2011,14:17)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2011,16:00)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 11 2011,12:36)Hi Pierre,Hopefully you are asking Charles to help establish “Truth”! (2Cor.4:2)Rather that to test him in some unrighteous kind of way? (James 1:13)“God's Word” is truth. (John 17:17)”God's anointing” is…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 12 2011,07:53)Tk,Romans 919Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?20Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make…[Read more]

For All who might care: The phrase used,…”Flesh and blood”…is not referring to a human body. The terms “flesh” and “carnal” and even “the world” are referring to the Old Testament ways of service to God. Jesus was the end to “that world”! We must put off the flesh(old way of laws, rules,rituals,etc.) and take on the New Way of Christ through…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 11 2011,01:30)Quote (karmarie @ April 26 2011,20:15)Hi wispring.I also heard it was a JW doctrine.Istari and I think Irene also believe this.I started this topic, before I heard what they said (they HAD said it before, but I wasnt really listening).So, now that I agree with them, I lost interest in this thread As it goes.So I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Aug. 10 2011,22:10)Its all good bro. But hey, glad your in the saddle. I thought of you alot yesterday. I was still trying to wrap my mind around your thinking and positions and motives. I thought of something. I do agree with alot of what you have stated, BUT, they apply to Jesus, not us. What you say is right, in the context…[Read more]

SF: Man has resisted God's will in the earth since creation! That why we have the mess we are in. Do you think God is in control? Then you must think he is a failure. God is not a taskmaster or an old man with a staff to whack people with if they do something wrong. God doesn't sit on a chair or kings throne in heaven. God doesn't “control”…[Read more]

I'm confused, I think my last post should have been written to “shimmer” and not “Mark”. The quote was from shimmer. Sorry Mark, but I think you agree with shimmer. TK

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 09 2011,10:42)The thing I have come to hate the most is hypocites. (I'm not calling you a hypocrite TK, I hardly know you!). I have met some though, and hearing them harp on about God and Jesus sort of puts me off anything. Though my faith is stronger than that, it could with others, which is why I hate it so much.Proverbs…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Aug. 08 2011,23:50)Tim, I just strongly disagree with you. I don't dislike you or have anything against you. I just know in my heart that the things that I have known and learned from the bible, you seem to rationalize away by symbolizing the word of God. You do not believe in a literal God. You do not believe in a literal…[Read more]

Wow! Thats why I accept and believe in arguments. I was hearing, judging, seeing, and learning from Lightenup and Mike and suddenly the rug is pulled out to stop. Bummer! It's not way off topic, it is an argument! TK

Shimmer: God bless you and your warm heart of love. I usually don't write as harshly as the post I made to Mark. If you will look back over our posts you will find a very aggressive spirit from Mark to me. I tend to react to that action. Jesus looked Peter in the eyes and said, get behind me satan. Being harsh is what it is.I want to remind you…[Read more]

Pierre: It seems to me that the very scriptures you quote, answer the question you ask! “How do we “get into” or “become one” with Christ”!Clearly Paul said the law was powerless for us to “get into” or “become One with” Christ. Rules of life or rules of living, man made morality, these are not acts that will “get you in” or “take you out”. The…[Read more]

3T33: You are a son of God! God is life. You have God's mind in you, the mind of Christ but you have allowed many dark thoughts to cover and block the light of life in Christ. You have a powerful mind that will bring to you what you concentrate on and intend to receive. You have so far experienced the dark side of living, which has nothing to do…[Read more]

If I could edit I would change Quote Disagreement teaches truth!! to “Disagreements many times expose the truth from the error”!

For All: An argument should stop whenever one party begins to point the finger, degrade, call names, make fun, say degrading things to the other party for a stand that they take with their doctrine. I don't think arguing, as in disagreeing, is ever reason to stop. The effort exerted is to prove, protect, or preserve one's beliefs! That is never a…[Read more]

Mike: I can see what you are saying and in a literal sense, must agree when restricted to the 8 chapters. So, its true you could have an 8 chapter doctrine to build and hang your hat on. In the broader perspective, there is some thoughts that I would more clearly adhere to for my doctrines of truth.Jesus taught one thing many times, over and over…[Read more]

The still small voice of God is within everybody. Sometimes you can hear it and heed it, sometimes you don't hear. Spirit is everywhere. Spirit is entangled or intertwined, connected, joined, touching everything at quantum levels. I believe God uses “agents” that are more sensitive to spirit truth and know what spirit they are of to hear and pass…[Read more]

Mike: Jesus confirmed that he was the Messiah to come or the Christ at John4:26, I that speak unto thee am he….At John 9:35 Jesus ask the man….Dost thou believe on the Son of God….at V:37….Jesus said thou hast both seen him and it is he that talketh with thee. At v38 the man worshipped him. He must have believed Jesus was God in the flesh!…[Read more]

For All: If the revelation of Jesus is an event of the future it will never happen! Past has happened and can't be changed, future has not come and there is no guarantee it will come. Future may never be! Now, the present now is all we actually have. Now, Jesus is here. Now, we are saved from sin and death! Now, we take on God and become one with…[Read more]