Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 26 2012,08:26)FTK.All These true followers in the world; where do they meet?Where do you meet? can you tell me?Every one is a kingdom by it self,no communications with one another; no visible teachers,no visible king,no visible kingdom.No visible city,pain is still with them,tears still with them,wars still with them,floods…[Read more]

Pierre: You can have FAITH in the finished work of Jesus and become all that Jesus did for us and gave to us….and never do another thing! Faith that Jesus did a work for you does not mean you have to do a work. Its not a gift if it charges a cost or work or a deed is required. Its not a gift if you so much as think you must pay or do…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 25 2012,22:32)ftk, what you are saying is irrelevant.1 John 4:4You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world.The spirit in a believer is greater than the spirit that rules the world.Our mission was never to make the world a better place, but to extend the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 25 2012,10:16)Quote (ftk @ Jan. 24 2012,23:00)WAKEUP:  It is obvious you are not answering my questions or statements so just a bunch of you said…i said…you did…no I didn't is a waste of time. You have no spiritual insight that I can see. Therefore you will not “see”(understand) the Kingdom of God. You perceive in a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 25 2012,03:47)Quote (ftk @ Jan. 24 2012,22:33)Pierre and Ed: I will certainly try. I feel like you or anyone else that believes they have anything to do with their salvation in Christ Jesus they would be in error/sin!I believe the package deal of total salvation is a perfect/all-inclusive, perfecting package of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 24 2012,23:37)Hi Tim,Let me see if I understand you correctly.I say that I no-longer commit sin, so then, this somehow to you means the opposite; is this correct?Plus you say there is NOTHING you can do to separate from God,yet you somehow believe that I have also done this; do I understand you correctly now?Is this what you are…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 25 2012,05:57)Terrica………That effort is to enter into that “REST” and how do we it  ” THROUGH FAITH” In the finished Work of Jesus CHRIST, not “OUR WORKS”, or haven't you also read this,  “NOT” of “WORKS of the LAW” LEST any   BOAST  For the LAW is for the sinner and the “UNGODLY”. You seem to be still (UNDER THE…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 25 2012,20:53)To those who are now further teaching falsely by saying that Jesus and God are in control of all things now, I think you need a reality check.Read the news. Evil happens all over the world every day. How do you reconcile that God is in full control of all things and evil prevails in the world?Well it is simple guys.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2012,11:22)Quote (ftk @ Jan. 24 2012,04:48)There is a God of light and a non-god of dark. A God of truth and a non-god of lies. A God of love and a non-god of evil.This is where the unscriptural part comes from, Tim.  Where in scripture is Satan called a “non-god”, or even a “so-called god”?NEVER.Hey Mike: A couple of…[Read more]

Everyone Pierre…but in that last post it was for wakeup! TK

WISDOM IS JUSTIFIED OF HER CHILDREN…..TK

WAKEUP: It is obvious you are not answering my questions or statements so just a bunch of you said…i said…you did…no I didn't is a waste of time. You have no spiritual insight that I can see. Therefore you will not “see”(understand) the Kingdom of God. You perceive in a physical way the scriptures you read. One must be born of spirit to…[Read more]

Pierre and Ed: I will certainly try. I feel like you or anyone else that believes they have anything to do with their salvation in Christ Jesus they would be in error/sin!I believe the package deal of total salvation is a perfect/all-inclusive, perfecting package of forgiveness, cleansing, making whole, worthiness, acceptance, righteousness,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 23 2012,19:28)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 23 2012,04:05)I think the way your worded it may have throw me off,  Because you used God with a capital letter and murder together may have thrown me off , Because i do not see Satan as the God of anything, much less this earth. I see an “ADVERSARIAL” SPIRIT working (IN) men allowed by…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 24 2012,08:36)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 23 2012,11:00)Actually t8 is like the JW's who believe that there are many 'gods.' Even if this were true, which it is not……………..Jack, you act as if the JWs and t8 just made this up out of thin air.  All we are doing is BELIEVING the scriptures that you choose NOT to…[Read more]

wakeup: I will answer with scriptures and truth from Jesus and what he says…you will fight a war against the truth with what you dig out of the revelation of John…which very few if any know anything about!! And then ask if I can sleep with my answer? My writings are mostly for others to read and learn so I get by what you say. You like to…[Read more]

As long as you “see” and “hear” the New Testament scriptures with physical eyes and ears you will not perceive the kingdom(ruling power) of God dwelling within.One that is of flesh(physical ways) will see, hear and perceive that way.God is spirit and his words are spirit truth full of only life…..no spiritual death!One that recreates his mind…[Read more]

T8: That is within your right to do. We all choose a god of choice or no god at all. Choosing a known and recognized, lying deceiver and calling him a god is a bit like waking up in the morning and wishing for a horrible day!!I had always thought you were a believer in ONE God! This is news to me. TK

Ed:…..IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE WORK OF YOUR OWN HANDS TO AID OR DESTROY THE SALVATION PROVIDED THROUGH CHRIST JESUS YOU HAVE DENIED HIS TOTAL WORK…..''FOR'' US!!…..FAITH IN WHAT JESUS DID FOR US, IS THE ONLY FORM OF PURIFICATION UNTO GOD THERE IS!Think honestly about it! Your salvation has nothing to do with you! You didn't do anything to earn…[Read more]

Pierre: Jesus said if you love me, you will keep my words (in heart) and my Father(which is the words/spirit) will love you and I and the father will make our “abode”(house of God) with you! One who loveth not the words of the Father keepeth them not!Interestingly this thread on “Marriage” should show that the marriage referred to in the…[Read more]