what might the appropriate forum be?

seems the “Yes, it is as you say” qualifies for the submitting to the oath… but oh well…. just was offering some info for you, if you don't agree thats cool….blessings

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 15 2005,08:08)Hi e and guest,Jesus is the only begotten Son of God. Right?The Father is the God of the Jews. Right?So Jesus is the Son of God who is his Father. Right?So Jesus is not the God of the OT. Right?  And Jesus is not part of that God as he is the Son of that God. Right?So trinity theory is nonsense.…[Read more]

white… I would also add that a contradiction is a very precise item, that is to say… a paradox is not a contradiction, a mystery is not a contradiction, a contradiction is a violation of the law of noncontradiction which states that a thing cannot both be and not be (and here is the really important part!) at the same time and in the same…[Read more]

Quote (Guest @ July 15 2005,07:53)Hi Nick,Just curious, can you show me where epistemaniac has said that Jesus is the Father?no kidding guest!!! my goodness… how many times do we have to go over this!?!?! neither the traditional doctrine of the Trinity, nor I, have ever said that Jesus was the Father…. I just don't get it….. thats just…[Read more]

Quote (chicken @ July 13 2005,20:46)thanksI think Nick's mentioning Matt is the clearest passage on this subject….Matthew 22:23-30 ESV The same day Sadducees came to him, who say that there is no resurrection, and they asked him a question, (24) saying, “Teacher, Moses said, 'If a man dies having no children, his brother must marry the widow…[Read more]

why is Jesus referred to as the mighty God then vic?Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given;and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be calledWonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”Gill rightly says “Christ is God, truly and properly so; as appears from his name…[Read more]

Quote (Christofer @ July 13 2005,01:34)Hi E – I missed your extensive post earlier on this page – so here's a run down of answers – have you read everything that Nick has written Chris? no – not yet, but in time I hope to! don't let the fact that you agree with Nick on certain theological issues cause you to point out what you take to be my…[Read more]

TY Nick…

here are a few more tidbits for you….”do not swear at all. Cf. James 5:12. This should not be taken as a universal condemnation of oaths in all circumstances. God Himself confirmed a promise with an oath (Heb. 6:13–18; cf. Acts 2:30). Christ Himself spoke under oath (26:63, 64). And the law prescribed oaths in certain circumstances (e.g., Num. 5…[Read more]

Hey Chris…. my favorite commentator on Matt is biblical scholar DA Carson… here is what he has to say on this passage in Matt 5:33ff… hope it helps out… 4) Oaths and truthfulness (5:33-37)33 “Again” probably confirms 5:31-32 as an excursus to the preceding antithesis rather than a new one. Matthew now reports an antithesis on a new theme.…[Read more]

sure white…. the sarcasm is just dripping from your words….!! lol!! love it!!!

Chris, re your saying “well- first – before I comment on 2 Tim and 2 Peter – it should be noted that those two particular books were likely not written till after Peter and Paul were dead – sometime in the second century. Most Christians do not know that the scholars have doubted those two books (as well as 1 Timothy and Titus) for some time due…[Read more]

Quote (Christofer @ July 13 2005,03:49)This might seem off topic – but the Bible is written by men – inspired at best. I believe that Jesus didn't write a book – as the prophets did – because His Gospel is truly meant to be delivered in person – not writings. The Apostles were ordered to 'teach the Gospel to all nations' (Mt 28:19-20). The Bible…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 12 2005,20:29)Hi E,The Holy Spirit is given to individuals, not to traditions or theologies. By all means we should listen for the voice of the Spirit in those who claim it but often we find other voices, those of strangers. Test all things, even the words of so called “divines” lest they be deceivers and test them…[Read more]

Quote (Christofer @ July 12 2005,18:17)Dear WhiteMateria,Being someone who does believe in a like manner to Nick – from what I know of him – I have to say – the JW's started out as a cult that falsely prophesied the return of Christ – right?Why would anyone want a brother in Christ to join this congregation I don't know, but it's sad you would…[Read more]

Quote (Christofer @ July 12 2005,18:06)Nick, E, and FYI – Man – you guys are hitting the wall that is built on theologies. There is so much grandstanding occurring that we are forgetting the most important things – we are to follow Him in all possible ways. I agree with Nick about most of everything I've read so far, and I can't understand why…[Read more]

we should never think that Christianity begins and ends with us, however… the questions that we ask… the things that we find in the Bible… none of this is new…. while we can never lift tradition to be equal in authority to Scripture, we should also never forget that we are not the first ones to have the Spirit, we are not the first ones to…[Read more]

There you go Nick, ignoring what has been said, and merely trying to side strp your very serious ethical and moral failings…. they will not go away simply by your ignoring them Nick… the fact is, you have sinned against others in your pursuit to disprove the trinity by your engaging in character assassination…. disbelieve in the trinity…[Read more]

Quote (Dianalevich @ July 09 2005,16:03)Here is an excerpt from an article my husband Chris wrote on our site. We would be interested to learn the thoughts of others concering the “Virgin Birth” 1) Virgin Birth – While it is professed that Jesus was born of a virgin in the books of Matthew and Luke, His birth is not mentioned in Mark or John.…[Read more]