Quote However the unity betwen the Father and the Son is not forever a unity of being. If it was then the Father has never had a Son.Oh? And why is this? I see no reason why the Father and the Son could not have the same unity of being and yet still be called “the Son”. After all, “the Son” is just one way to describe Him, He is called by many…[Read more]

aww man… I forgot you can't edit posts here… sorry about the sp errors guys….

Quote (trettep @ April 08 2005,04:07)The word Godhead can be found in the King James Version in the following verses:Act 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 21 2005,04:48)Hi soxan, Here is another forum on trinity. Do you believe , as you suggested in another forum, God is in fact three equal persons in something called a godhead? Do you worship and pray to each or to the so called godhead? One of correspondents said he did and it was like going to a company and you never…[Read more]

having an online conversation with yourself Nick? lol…

Quote (vicalcabasa @ July 27 2005,02:04)Quote (epistemaniac @ July 26 2005,22:26)t8, you said “The point is that even if he were equal to God as you are saying then that shows that he is not God. If you are equal to anything then it shows that you are not that thing you are equal too.”Exactly! The point here is that while Jesus is equal to God in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2005,22:40)Hi E, So Because God is God and we cannot hope to understand him then no boundaries can be placed on how we allow His nature to be disclosed? We simply say that all that is illogical is “Mystery”.That sort of logic has been used by the Whore of Babylon since 200 ad. It is a “control mechanism” that allows…[Read more]

Vic, you said “I checked Phil 2:6 from a Trinitarian bible commentator. He said the passage means God and Jesus are equally divine. (wycliffe’s)But okay given, JESUS Possesses Attributes Which Only God HasHE has Names and titles of deity.He received worship, and don’t mind if Thomas called him my God.And God called him God (The LORD said to his S…[Read more]

t8, you said “The point is that even if he were equal to God as you are saying then that shows that he is not God. If you are equal to anything then it shows that you are not that thing you are equal too.”Exactly! The point here is that while Jesus is equal to God in regard to His essence, He and the Father are not the same in identity. That is,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2005,05:34)Hi E, “He did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped”Now simple reading of that phrase suggests he is not currently equal wiith God. It suggests he has to grasp equality to have it. Certainly the greek supports that idea as 'Hapazo” and it's related greek words means to “take by force”, to…[Read more]

vic, I should add that learning to properly divide the word of truth does not mean dividing the Bible's concepts in such a way as to make them come into conflit with one another…. taking all the “Jesus is in willing submission to the Father” type of passages without also taking into account the passages that speak of equality is not what the…[Read more]

Quote (vicalcabasa @ July 26 2005,03:12)You’re beliefs are well crafted and very elaborate. I give that to you. But all of this is still founded in your view that The Father is equal to the Son and equal to the Spirit. Three beings in one Godhead.Let me enumerate some popular passages…1.  “ I was brought forth …” The wisdom of God speaking i…[Read more]

actually, what is claimed is that these are preincarnate appearances of the Son… a great example is Isaiah's vision in chapt 6Isaiah 6:1-5 ESV In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and the train of his robe filled the temple. (2) Above him stood the seraphim. Each had six wings: with two…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 18 2005,20:56)Hi E, You asked about the appropriate forum and then when I show you you criticise the Words of Jesus?Nick, you had at one point said that “You must be born again to enter the kingdom” to which I had sarcastically replied Really!?!? no kidding!!! wow… thats deep….” The reason I said that so…[Read more]

Nick, the respectful thing to do is to answer the questions. You expect your questions to be answered, so why can't you extend the same courtesy to others?I would be more than happy to answer your questions, as I have done repeatedly in this forum, the least you can do, is the same.blessings

I know you like questions Nick… here are some for you:”If baptism is a requirement for salvation…Why do dozens of passages of scripture refer to salvation through faith, without mentioning baptism (John 5:24, John 6:29, Acts 13:39, Acts 16:31, Romans 1:16, Romans 4:5, Galatians 3:24, 1 Peter 1:5, etc.)?Why are works excluded from the salvation…[Read more]

I also need to point out that you misquoted Scripture above, it is not Gal 6:9 that you (wrongly) appeal to in support of baptismal regeneration, but is rather 1 Cor. 6:11…. you need to be more careful with God's word Nick… this same sloppiness is revealed in your exegesis, just as much as your quotation… Paul was not saying that the process…[Read more]

1 Peter 1:18-19 NIV For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, (19) but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect.why do you want to add to Christ's work by saying that it isn't good enough to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 03 2005,03:53)Hi Gal 6.9″ Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived;neither fornicators , nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor theives, nor the covetous, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 18 2005,20:54)Hi E, You must be born again to enter the kingdom.Really!?!? no kidding!!! wow… thats deep….