oh yes I do in fact believe that Jesus was spoken of in the OT…. what about all the Messianic prophecies… foremost, what about the identification of God from Isaiah chapter 6 as actually Isaiah seeing Jesus…?(Isaiah 6:1-3) In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord (“the Lord of all” (All-herrn, sovereign or absolute Lord—Keil and D…[Read more]

of course logic is true… you have to use it to even (attempt) to argue against it… consider the law of non-contradition which simply says that a thing cannot both be and not be in the same time and in the same relationship… eg “A” cannot be both “A” and “~A” at the same time and in the same relationship…so suppose someone tries to tell me…[Read more]

… if so… you need to get out a bit more my man…. if you only have yourself for entertainment or wit…. then you will soon find yourself to be the sole member of your audience, and the only one laughing at the sound of your own voice…. is a particularly disturbing image to be sure…..

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2007,18:49)Hi E, So there is an economic and ontological trinity?Does the committee have to change hats when they swap from one to another?do you really find your questions to be that amusing or particularly insightful Nick?

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 16 2007,16:32)Epi – I'll say the same thing to you that a dear member said to me not too long ago……lighten up! No disrespect was intended. You feel you came to your belief honestly – I believe I came to my belief honestly – so does everyone on this board! And I have quite counting how many differing beliefs there…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 16 2007,16:26)I think I understand your theology, Epi. I've been studying it practically non-stop for nearly 4 years now.Funny, though, how I've read books that are almost 3 inches thick and at the end it says……”No one can fully understand the Trinity.” And this is from a book that is titled, “Understanding the…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 16 2007,16:21)Epi writes:rather its a matter of the roles they have… and so too is it the case for all the “the father is greater than I (Jesus) type of statements in the Scriptures…******************************Jesus never talked about “roles” and so I've never read this lesson. It sounds foreign to me, I'm sorry. It…[Read more]

hey Scott if you are still around….t8 said “sscott.No one can see God.”but Jesus said He had seen the Father;(John 6:45-46) It is written in the Prophets, 'And they will all be taught by God.' Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me– not that anyone has seen the Father except he who is from God; he has seen the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2005,13:36)Hi, In response to a post from bic I would like to initiate discussion on this subject. Public opinion favours the thought that God would not treat His human creation in this way and devise their own doctrines. But we do not follow public opinion but what is revealed in the Word of God.Those who do not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2007,16:51)Quote (epistemaniac @ April 16 2007,15:54)Quote (epistemaniac @ April 16 2007,14:03)you know Nick…. I have to ask ya…. when was Joseph ever said to be the One who created all that there is, and that he is the one who holds all creation together? when you can answer this, you will have your answer to…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 16 2007,20:29)Quote (epistemaniac @ April 16 2007,14:05)can you say…. “red herring”…?goooood… I knew you could…. lolGood to see you back here again e-man, and as delightfully obstreperous as always too I see….hey there .. ALWAYS great to see you as well!!I came, I saw, I was obstreperous…. my job here is…. ok…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 16 2007,16:48)Epi wrote:you still seem to have a penchant for asking informally fallacious questions, informal fallacies called “complex questions”….. ask direct questions please, without the unnecessary “either/or” addition which always seems to assume something that you may be assuming, but is not perhaps what the person…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2007,22:16)Hi E, You say”the God who was with Him was none other then God the Father and God the Son…” So “God the Son” was with “God the Son” ?No third person or are we back to a binity?ummtwas brilig in the slithy tove

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 16 2007,16:03)Epi – it all helps! I was a dedicated Trinitarian until the latter part of 2003. I was raised in the Assembly of God church, and in the doctrine of the Trinity. So, I know the verses that you hold dear, and the verses that you cling to in hopes of explaining the triune god you serve.I have compassion on…[Read more]

still haven't grasped this basic point yet either ehh Nick? 😉 how many times do you have to ask the same question? I mean, it is not as if the Trinitarians answer to your question in this particular regard is complex or difficult to follow. Why not just say you know what the Trinitarians answer is (the economic Trinity, differing roles with the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2007,14:24)Hi E, From scripture and not creedal doctrines please.as soon as you answer all questions with nothing but scriptures, versus your own inferences and opinions, then I will happy to comply… until then, your question is silly and hypocritical….blessings,Ken

Quote (epistemaniac @ April 16 2007,14:03)you know Nick…. I have to ask ya…. when was Joseph ever said to be the One who created all that there is, and that he is the one who holds all creation together? when you can answer this, you will have your answer to your other questions…blessings,KenNick, I am still waiting for the answer to my…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2007,15:17)Hi Tim2, It is impossible to have a relationship with a trinity.Lk 15″20And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him. ” This is the loving Father God.Abba Father.I would like to submit the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2007,14:10)Quote (epistemaniac @ April 16 2007,14:01)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2007,13:53)Hi ken,Who is the monogenes Son of God?Was he sent into the world?Acts 10 38How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil;…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 14 2007,17:24)I would love to see this thread get back on topic While the “Spirit” is an interesting topic, there must be a better board for it? I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on “fully God, fully man.” Anyone?Jesus was fully God, but, for a time, set aside the prerogatives that went with deity and willing…[Read more]