Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 07 2008,06:00)Hi E, If the bible does not mention any trinity should we search for support for this theory elsewhere?Vain human intellectualism is a futile exercise is it not if truth is what we seek?Nick, your superficial reading, and for that matter, responses, ARE most obvious once again lol…. I did not suggest that…[Read more]

Quote (malcolm ferris @ Oct. 07 2008,01:11)Been busy last few days…Hi WJ Some thoughts on some of your comments.Quote Really? Can you name one attribute scripturally that the Father has of which Yeshua who is the “image of the invisible God”, does not have? Only one?How about a few?Omnipotence – Jesus does not have omnipotence of himself – he wa…[Read more]

Quote (malcolm ferris @ Oct. 07 2008,09:24)Hi KenHope you are wellQuote To see Jesus, is to see God.  Therefore Paul's words in 1 Tim. must refer to God the Father, who is spirit, and the human eye cannot see “spirit”, and not to Jesus, further reinforcing the doctrine of the Trinity, as there is a distinction being made in reference to the…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 06 2008,18:32)WJ, what are your thoughts on the Sahidic Coptic translating of John 1:1 as “a god.”Much was made of it in the scholarly world when an apocryphal gospel written in Coptic, titled the “Gospel of Thomas,” was discovered in Egypt near Nag Hammadi in December 1945. Yet, after an initial welcome, the scholarly world…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Oct. 06 2008,22:09)Good posts brother T8,At the same time please say that there can be no other Gods besides our Father in this whole universe. Please don't be confused with the word 'theos' which is wrongly translated for princes and judges in greek. These so called gods can not be confused with our True God Father.Thanks and…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 06 2008,21:31)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 05 2008,01:58)Hi t8Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2008,13:44)Is the Father the image of the invisible God?Yes, if the Father who is invisible makes himself visible. Would the “image” you see not be God? Again, you reduce Gods image to being less than God therefore creating a false image of…[Read more]

The Virtue of Name-CallingJohn W. RobbinsAmerican Christians of the twentieth century are, for the most part, a pusillanimous bunch. About the only time they shed their timidity is in order to attack a fellow Christian who is valiant in defense of the truth. A Christian like that is perceived as a threat to the “unity of believers” and the “pe…[Read more]

me too…. thats why I believe monergism to be true…. unfortunately some of the ignorant and superficial (not speaking of any one in particular here) believe that any one who doesn't agree with their INTERPRETATION of the scriptures is, simply by virtue of their disagreement, unbiblical…… as if to disagree with them is the very same thing as…[Read more]

the problem is the definition of “christiandom”… since the word is so nebulous it can come to mean anything you want it to mean….. the same with the phrase “organized religion”…. after all, small groups are a form of organized religion just as much a mainline denominations… its all a matter of perspective. For the JWs, anyone NOT…[Read more]

regeneration precedes faithNOTfaith precedes regenerationie that God, and God alone, does the saving when people are saved.. that God gives the faith that a person needs in order to be saved, and if God doesn't give this faith, no one would in fact be saved. Its not that man cooperates with God by working with Him in the process of salvation,…[Read more]

the point of the link was not monergism, though that certainty lies at back of the entire discussion of election….the point I was emphasizing was that there seems to be a dichotomy between election viewed s individual or corporate as if the 2 are antithetical or mutually exclusive of one another, they are not. But, God deals in particulars… He…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 10 2008,08:11)“You Must Choose”On numerous occasions Jehovah encouraged his loyal ones to choose a virtuous course. For example, when Jehovah concluded a covenant with the ancient nation of Israel, he said to them, through Moses: “I do take the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you today, that I have put life and death…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 06 2008,06:37)Quote (theodorej @ Sep. 05 2008,22:05)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 05 2008,07:09)Hi GB, Does your encouragement include reassurance that despite the rebellion and sin of men all will be saved?Greetings Nick…..Wouldn't you think that,in Gods mercy and loving nature he would give all an opportunity to be…[Read more]

ps, and btw LU, re the title “firstborn” elsewhere I wrote “In the Scriptures the term “first born” of course can mean the literal first born child in a chronological sense, but it can also be a title of honor… now, we know (or we should know) that the Scriptures do not contradict themselves, right? OK…. so we look at the following…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 01 2008,10:36)Quote (epistemaniac @ Aug. 31 2008,15:44)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 01 2008,02:52)In the beginning was the word.  That does not say that the “word” was eternal, it just says that it was in the beginning.  A word has an origin, first it must be a thought.  Surely there must be something more than that for those of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 01 2008,10:51)Hi E, You say”Next, the only thing I allow to define my faith is the Scripture. ” Good call.So no derivations or inferences?perhaps, as you seem incapable of writing out well thought detailed refutations of others beliefs and/or defenses of your beliefs, you are likewise incapable of reading the same? Good…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 01 2008,10:14)Hi E, You say” “Proof” is in the eye of the beholder, “That statement alone speaks volumesOf course it does. It speaks volumes concerning your failure to believe the proof of the Scriptures concerning the truth of the Trinity. However, since you will reject the proof I offer, proof is in the eye of the…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ Sep. 01 2008,09:59)Quote Sorry brother,But you need a history lesson… Constantine WAS NOT a “true” Christian…true Christians follow Christ.. they don't try to appease Pagans by assimilating Pagan and Christian beliefs…which is exactly what constantine did. Constantine was more interested in Political expansion than…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 01 2008,05:52)http://www.truthortradition.comthat entire site is based on the same fallacy…. …. some traditions are bad, no question about it…. good or bad, traditions should NEVER be elevated in their level of authority to the same level of authority as the Scripture, period. But, again, traditions are not NECESSARILY bad. Is…[Read more]

Irrelevant N. For the purposes of this thread, it matters not one whit whether you believe the Trinity is true OR false. The point is that the way this section of the Forum is set up, it pits tradition against scripture AS IF THEY MUST BE CONTRARY TO ONE ANOTHER. Capiche? Tradition CAN Be in conformity with the Scriptures, according to the…[Read more]