When you can’t prove it, break out the gematria. You can always manipulate numbers and make something add up the way you want.

Ha ha haa ha ha

Hold firmly to the truth, encourage by sound doctrine.

The first thing that must be considered in John 1:1 is that John did not speak English, the Text handed down to us is in Greek.

John 1:1; En arché én ho lógos kaí ho lógos én prós tón theón kaí theós én ho lógos.

@emeth

ho lógos =91
Spirit =91

Ho Logos is God’s HolySpirit, not Jesus

So mightily grew “The Word” (the HolySpirit) of God and prevailed. (Acts 19:20)

It is God’s HolySpirit that prevails against God’s enemies

I hope you and others get this now!

Do you now get it? s that is what is meant by “and the word became flesh” what is meant there is the word of God became “fulfilled” as the “flesh man Jesus”. But none of that actually made Jesus himself GOD’S OWN WORDS.

Hi Gene,

You got this part wrong…

“The Word” became flesh in Jesus when Jesus was baptized with God’s HolySpirit as…[Read more]

Jodi’s words

“Jesus’ name is the word of God” (post #866604)

Hi Gene,
“is Jesus name the word of God?”
“Yes” or “No”
Jodi says “Yes”
I say “No”
What say you?

the answer is “NO”

Hi Gene,

Then you disagree with Jodi and agree with me… right?
“No, Jesus is name NOT the word of God”
____________
God bless
Ed J

Hi Berean,

Google says it is short for nonplayer…[Read more]

Gene, stop dodging my question

Edj……Go back and reread Jodi’s post 865194, she is clearly telling you, Jesus “himself” is “NOT” GOD’S WORDS. He is the “fulfillment ” of God’s words though? Jodi and I both have been telling people that, way before you ever came to see it, here.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

Jodi’s words

“Jesus’ name is the word of God” (post #8666…[Read more]

The HolySpirit is Jesus’ Father…

“fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the HolySpirit.” (Matt 1:20)
“therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God” (Luke 1:35)

The HolySpirit is God

@ edj

the Holy Spirit is not a divine being like God the Father and the divine son of God, but that is another story.

Hi Berean,

I have a verse I want you to look at, that calls “God’s Holy Spirit: God

“But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the HolySpirit,
and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4…[Read more]

I know you believe the rider is not Jesus. But the context of the question is if Jesus was the rider, then Jesus would be The Word of God, right?

of course

But there are numerous verses to suggest that Jesus is not “The Word”, and
even more verses to Suggest God’s HolySpirit is “The Word”
than the few you point to using innuendo.

(1) The Son is called Jesus so he is Jesus.
 
(2)If he is called the Word of God, then he would be the Word of God right?

1) Yes
2) “If” The word was Jesus, but of course it is not.

Look at this verse…

“Now the parable is this: The seed is “The Word” of God.” (Luke 8:11)

Jesus is the sower of the seed in the parable, which sows “The Word”…[Read more]

His name is Jesus in this verse:

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6)

But “The Word” is no-where to be found among the names attributed to Jesus in verse 6

Is his name Jesus?

“No”, not in verse Rev 19:13

Edj

Is his name The Word of God or not?

Hi T8,

God’s HolySpirit is the “His” in Rev 19:13, and yes “His” name is “The Word”

@Edj

Revelation 19:13, KJV: “And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.”

See Berean: vesture means clothing. Loose the religious brainwashing.
Compare Isaiah 63 to Rev 19 and you will see what verse 10 clearly states:

“But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be…[Read more]

What I teach is that Jesus name is the Word of God. So he is the Word of God. His name is Jesus, he is Jesus.

Hi T8,

There is no-where where Scripture teaches this directly.
You are merely going by innuendo based solely on inference.

Let me give you a comparative example so you can understand my point:

The JW’s believe Jesus is/was Michael…[Read more]

Hi T8, Good!

Do you therefore agree:

A. “The Word” of God is “The Bible” (the literal word of God)
and/or
B. “The Word” of God is “God’s spoken word” (message)

Are both A and B correct?

“Yes” or “No”?

Sorry EdJ, but I have to say sometimes because of the way you have worded these, they are not a fair yes/…

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Berean, the word “robe” is not in the text

Gene,

Please no more crack-pot answers saying me and Jodi are saying the same thing – as clearly we are NOT!