Hey guys, if the scriptures can say anything then they say nothing.

Obviously if the word “day” is used with “evening and morning” it is in a literal sense. If it includes “day 1, 2, 3”, etc. it also is in a literal sense. If ANYONE has a problem with this reasoning please speak up.

I am picking up some very progressive vibes in this forum. From…[Read more]

Lightenup: “Please notice the use of the word day that you claim must mean one day:

4This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven.”

That is true that the Hebrew word yom can mean an extended period of time. My reference was to the use of yom in the creation days…[Read more]

T8: “Same again. The Earth was void and things started to happen like an atmosphere starting to form from gases being emitted from the earth. Scientists believe the surface was molten and when the earth cooled, an atmosphere formed mainly from gases spewed from volcanoes. When the the period of intense volcanic activity ended, the atmosphere…[Read more]

Mike, because my telescope is a Dobsonian reflector it is not real conducive to using camera equipment. It doesn’t have any tracking ability, except me trying to keep up with whatever is in view. It could be done but it would need to be very short exposure time.

T8, thanks for the video but I already had a grasp of why I can’t see the whole earth. I did enjoy his exposure of the ISS and their fisheye cameras. I have to ask, why would NASA want to give the illusion of a curved earth? Why wouldn’t they want to show the actual look of earth? Just wondering out loud.

T8: “Guys why not start up a GoFundMe page where Flat Earthers can donate to, to build a rocket. Then blast that thing into the firmament, and create another large crack in it. Then tell the Ball Earthers to explain how there are now two cracks in the firmament. Once they give a reasonable answer, then show them the video of how it…[Read more]

T8: “when you think about it technically, the sun and moon are in your brain.”

Umm, no they’re not. My brain allows me to interpret the reality of the sun and moon but they do not reside there. Although I have been told that my head was in the clouds.

Nick, I guess that sounds ok. I can only really go by what the scriptures say.

Gen 1:14-15 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse (firmament) of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years; 15 and let them be for lights in the expanse (firmament) of the heavens to…[Read more]

t8, This is the scriptural reference you made.

Then the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven

“Out of heaven” can easily mean from our heaven, as in where the birds fly and the judgment was certainly from the Lord. So I don’t see any contradiction in this verse.

Having said that, I do not reject a…[Read more]

Mike, nice shot of Jupiter! I had my telescope out a week ago and saw a great shot of it as well! It’s amazing what you can do with the P-900!

Hey Mike, this is off topic but as you very well know there are many fossils now that are found with original soft tissue. This fact alone cancels out millions of years.

Nick: “I believe what is written. But I am equally sure that your idea of a firmament is not what He meant.”

Great. Since you believe in a firmament also maybe you have an idea of the height and thickness.

I don’t recall giving any descriptions of the firmament so I’m not sure how you could have anything to base your opinion that I’m…[Read more]

Nick: “A close firmament? How close is the firmament and how thick is it?”

I can’t answer those questions. But the way you phrase them it almost sounds like you don’t believe there is a firmament. I’m not trying to put words in your mouth but that is the way it comes across. Am I wrong?

Anthony: “Hi ✝ God separated light from darkness (verse 4). The literary sequence implies that darkness was separated only some time after light existed, but light is always separated from darkness; they are distinct by definition. Perhaps verse 4 is not intended to be sequentially precise. Or perhaps it means that, at the assumed point of…[Read more]

I’m sure most here have heard of *Wernher von Braun who was a German SS (Nazis) that developed the V2 rocket. And most probably know that at his death he had Psalm 19:1 referenced on his grave marker. This is interesting because Psalm 19:1 mentions the heavens declaring the glory of God and the firmament! Let’s take a look.

Psalm 19:1 The…[Read more]

t8: “What are the heavens that God created in the beginning if it doesn’t include stars? Anyone?”

It does include the stars but not until day 4. Would there not be a need for an expanse (firmament) to place the stars in before the stars were created?

Nick: “The creation of light and darkness in Gen 1.3 does not need a created sun. You do not need the Sun to have light. God is light and in Him there is no darkness at all. 1jn 1.5 And at the end there will be no need for a sun because God gives light. Is 60.19, Rev 22.5”

Nick, I couldn’t have said it better. I even tried before I read th…[Read more]

Ed: “Both of these ideas mentioned in day 4 refer BACK to the Earth’s rotation
as it correlates to the Heliocentric model of our solar-system as mentioned in day 1.”

“Heliocentric” refers to the sun. The sun wasn’t even created until day 4. How then can anything created on day 1 refer to the sun? And here is my burning question; where d…[Read more]

Ed: “You appear to be addressing the sun mention by your presupposed doubts as some kind of evidence,
while at the same time ignoring an even clearer reference: “And God divided the light from the darkness” <-day 1 “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for …days” <– day 4″

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Gene: “Nothing you and you FE buddies has yet been proved, as solid evidence, everything has been proven not true by many, many, many, scientific experts, not to even begin to mention the thousand of actual pictures and movies shot from space of hundreds of satlites, space station, eye witness from astronauts themselves, and the list goes on and…[Read more]