One other challenge; provide Scripture that uses literal or any other type of language that describes a globe earth.

I have a challange for everyone. If you can spend 25 minutes watching the beginning of this video you will see the reason why this is such an important topic and how it is producing much fruit for the kingdom.

It it is an interview with Rob Skiba which many of us on both sides have used for information.

LU, sadly that didn’t help. If both the sun and moon are way up high in the sky relative to my position then the moon should be entirely lit up. There would nothing to cast a shadow on it.

Speaking of the moon, why is there such a distinct terminator line rather than a defused light and dark area that gradually goes from light to dark?

Just thinking out loud.

Come to think of it, why would a ball be lit like that in the first place? Wouldn’t it have a hot spot and just fade out?

I was at one of my accounts today and just finished up when the security guard came up; James, a great conversationalist and well admired person at the Cambell School of Law, when I noticed that the sun sun was way up high and the moon was too.

I asked James why the moon was only half lit up when the sun was so high in the sky being 10:00 AM. He…[Read more]

Gene, what if you discovered that the ISS was not what we were told and no one was on it? What if the pictures you saw from high altitudes showed no curve at all? Would that destroy your faith?

So Nick, what did you think of the government papers from two countries, NASA and contracted Universities using flat and stationary earth math to do research? Are they on an ego trip as well?

Gov’t Admits FLAT EARTH

To be fair LU, Mike gave a specific example of the eclipse from the northern hemisphere. In that example it doesn’t make a lot of sense that it would have eclipsed from the top down.

I do appreciate that you are researching this though.

It seems that when any research is done the flat earth has to be used in order to get actual “real” results. At least as far as NASA and the governments of US and Russia are concerned. Why would that be?

Gov’t Admits FLAT EARTH

LU, what I was trying to say was that the videos only show the moon and not the position of the sun. I wasn’t very clear about that, sorry.

With the moon on one side of the earth and the sun on the other how could the earth cast a shadow on the top of the moon?

That is what I would like to see in a video. The relationship of the sun, earth and…[Read more]

T8, So your saying that what we see is more important than what what the Word of God says?

LU: I’m sorry but every time you bring up the “top down” eclipse it seems that it is a <b>simulated</b> piece of evidence and not a direct “observational and repeatable” piece of evidence.

Do yourselves a favor and watch the videos because it puts it in context and has the advantage of someone walking you through the documents. He is a passionate preacher that loves Yeshua! These are just facts. Look at them or bury your head in the sand. It will be evident by your replies.

So the people that take a flat earth for real are … not right? What about the US government, Russian government, NASA and the Ivy League Universities which are doing research for the government? Well, take a look;

Gov’t Admits FLAT EARTH

There are numerous official documents from NASA, the Government both…[Read more]

T8: “A moving car’s contained atmosphere is relative to all enclosed in the car. All moving at the same speed. It perfectly explains the earth and atmosphere and what is contained.”

Wait, the atmosphere is “contained”? Are you referring to a firmament?

At any rate, you did not address my questions.

* If the road is moving in one direction a…[Read more]

T8: “Further, the Bible says the sun sets or goes down and your Flat Earth Biblical model doesn’t have the sun go under the disk.”

I recall Mike asking for a biblical verse that stated that the sun “sets” in the original language. Have you done that? I have been following pretty closely and I don’t recall you providing any such verse. I did s…[Read more]

T8: “The video in your post Mike is debunked. The boat in the video is on the near side of the horizon and is small, so disappears due to its size, not the curvature of the Earth. But ocean liners and ocean tankers going over the horizon disappear from the bottom up as you would expect if the earth was globe shaped.”

No, it is not debunked. But…[Read more]

T8: “Boom! And the atmosphere is moving with the Earth, so in relation to the earth’s surface the atmosphere is not moving.”

No boom. In the case of my example with the motorcycle, its force was against the road and with the airplane its force is against the atmosphere.

Now if the road was moving at 60 mph in one direction and I was t…[Read more]

T8. “Do you take into consideration the outside air rushing past your 100 km/h speeding enclosed car as you throw a ball in the air and catch it. How come you never see people calculating anything to work out where the ball will be after 1 second or so at that speed. No, you just throw the ball as if you were standing still on Earth because both…[Read more]