@Jodi,

Hi DT,

YOU: Nothing is written that says the Messiah was to come, do nothing, leave for a couple millennia, and return one day. Why do the Jews reject the Jesus as the Messiah; he never did what was prophesied and there is no verse that says the Messiah was to come twice.

ME: Just to pull what I said all together in my last posts that was…

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@Jodi,

Hi DT,

YOU: To say he will accomplish what was prophesied when he returns is improvable. Nothing is written that says the Messiah was to come, do nothing, leave for a couple millennia, and return one day.

ME: Do nothing???????

Do we say he did nothing? We believe through God, according to God’s will, plan and by the power of His Spirit,…

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@Jodi,

In the following “You” being myself and the “Me” being yourself

Yes, of course Jesus would need to meet all of the requirements, not just one which is why I provided a response to each of the requirements that you gave.

YOU: The reason the passage about the Messiah being Jewish is included, is because it’s a requirement; why would I l…

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@Jodi,

The reason the passage about the Messiah being Jewish is included, is because it’s a requirement; why would I leave it out? This wasn’t suppose to be “gotcha” moment! Out of the “list”, the Jesus fulfill one item. The Messiah can’t miss a single requirement outlined in the Tanakh and still be called the Messiah and since he only met one,…[Read more]

@Jodi,

In the following “You” being myself and the “Me” being yourself continued from post #946829:

YOU: NO, I meant IMPROVABLE; because you cannot prove “in vitro” fertilization is what happened. This is a creation of your mind and is the most “logical” solution for you because we cannot have God impregnating mortal women because that’s what hap…

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@Jodi,

In the following “You” being myself and the “Me” being yourself from post #946829:

YOU: Jewishness is represented by the fact the child’s mother is Jewish and has nothing to do with tribal association. We can say the Jesus’ mother is Jewish, thus making him Jewish. The contention is his daddy, because the father is who determines…

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@Jodi,
You: Our God gives mercy upon mankind otherwise, we’d all be brute beasts.

Me: Aren’t we created in the image of God? If we ignore God’s natural law of the “knowledge of good an evil”, we can become wicked. To call us beasts, is a stretch

You: our hope is in having God’s Spirit also lead us in all the ways we should go.

Me: You have to…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: with your reasoning then, HOW can “anything” be “preordained”

Me: This make no sense, you seem to be missing a word or two or misspoke. I never suggested “nothing” couldn’t be preordained; I quoted Peter and John saying the Jesus’ death WAS preordained/foreordained. Foreordained means an inevitable, predestined, or established befor…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: where did I or anyone here say God “MURDERED” JESUS. To say that is simply “a LIE”.

Me: Why are you shooting the messenger? If you are going to inject yourself into a conversation, please start at the beginning.

My question to Jodi was because of her statement of “God putting to death one man for the transgressions of others.” AGA…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: I Answered your question to Jodi, and instead of answering the scriptures I gave you, you simply ignore them and shift to something else

Me: You provided zero scriptures in your response to the Jodi question. AND you will notice in my response to you I quoted exactly what you said and responded to YOUR statement the Jesus…[Read more]

@Gene,

Can I ask why you decided to jump to a question I asked Jodi verses answering the questions I asked you to clarify in our last discussion concerning the “millennial reign”? For your memory enjoyment:

Why is God “testing” everyone who is already “saved”? The first “saving” wasn’t an actual “saving”; wasn’t it good enough?

Aren’…[Read more]

@Carmel,

First, would you like a little cheese with your whine? Maybe a cracker to wash it down? Me saying your writing style s*cks:

As a side note, can you please write in a normal fashion; your format is extremely distracting and hard to follow. Stop with the all caps, there is no need to constantly yell.

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@Carmel,

Your response shows up as a period on the forum; what I received in the email update is HTML garbage. Your “emphatic, expressive, and impactful” writing style falls flat if it can’t be read. Learn how to write! You may also want to check your coding for errors since it didn’t post properly.

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@Jodi,

You sure do like to read between the lines don’t you? No where did I say not to study; but to self study and rely on your own conclusions and call them truth without confirmation, can get you into trouble. One can make anything say whatever they want it and call it truth (think of the over 30,000 different religions worldwide today). W…[Read more]

@Jodi,

You: I pointed out there is quite the difference between God commanding Israel not to murder their children in worship of false gods verses God putting to death one man for the transgressions of others where that man is raised shortly thereafter back to life.

Me: HE murdered his son for the “transgressions of others”, like a bull on an…[Read more]

@Jodi,

You: Jewish represents that you are of the tribe of Judah, they are one and the same.

Me: Jewishness is represented by the fact the child’s mother is Jewish and has nothing to do with tribal association. We can say the Jesus’ mother is Jewish, thus making him Jewish. The contention is his daddy, because the father is who determines tri…[Read more]

@Jodi,

There is only one thing that matters in your response and it has to do with whether the Jesus is the true Messiah or not and every response that doesn’t resolve this is pointless. IS THE JESUS THE TRUE MESSIAH!?!?! This is the only question that matters! If the Jesus doesn’t fulfill one requirement of what is outlined in the Tanakh, can…[Read more]

@Gene,

Once again you continue to ignore the elephant in the room; when are you going to prove the Jesus is the true Messiah according to what was written in the Tanakh about the Messiah? Why do you keep running away?

You: I explained to you about why God has the millennium period, and for what reason he is doing it, did that also fly over…[Read more]

@Gene,

I never said “I” was able to save myself; I said God has given all mankind the path to forgiveness. If you have a question ask, stop making assumptions and put words in my mouth I didn’t say.

God never mentioned a “holy spirit” in the Tanakh; a NT creation and why there’s the doctrine of the Trinity.

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@Berean,

My guess you still haven’t looked up the provided passages concerning to whom the “arm of the Lord” was revealed. What are you afraid of?

It’s never to late to turn back to Hashem! HE is always waiting for you with out stretched arms, because HE loves HIS creation.