@ Berean,

As I skimmed through the suggested book, the main take away is the King James is the only proper bible written and other translations are only good when they agree with it. Hate to break it to you, the KJV has its own flaws and in no way is it “perfect”; which is why I have 12 translations I use daily and reference another 60+ online.…[Read more]

@ Proclaimer,

What was the gospel, the “good news”, Christ taught? Wasn’t it the coming of the Kingdom of God? Was it not Christ who entered the Kingdom of God?

I haven’t had the time to fully talk about Col 1:15-18 as it becomes a lengthy discussion to dissect the verses. I will say, there is a period in most translations at the end of verse 17…[Read more]

@ Jodi,

I believe God the Father has made understanding what HE said so simple and man’s religion has complicated everything. Hold fast, you too Gene, I believe God is removing religious blinders from people in preparation of something coming that will shake this world to its core. We are but a small fleeting speck on this planet and only have a…[Read more]

@ Berean,

Who made you the authority and what qualifications do you have to determine which scripture translation is correct or not? What is the perfect scripture then? I must know! This way I can put away the twelve I use daily on my computer and can stop using the other 60+ I reference online. Tell me the one I should use so I can put the rest…[Read more]

@ Berean,

Are you really being this stubborn? When you ask someone their name, are you asking in the present or future tense? Agur is asking if either of them know of someone who can do all he is asking and to tell him their name.

Here’s a little food for thought. Why is Agur also asking for this man’s childrens name. I may be reading into this…[Read more]

@ Berean,

So the truth is you can’t reconcile Deut 18 to a preexistent Christ; so are now choosing to ignore it.

Prov 30:4, did your read the chapter? I don’t understand why Jesus has to be injected into everything read in the old testament? Are you sure you’re an Adventist, starting to sound like a Southern Baptist!

Beginning in verse 1 we fin…[Read more]

@ Berean,

Explain what you believe is happening in Proverbs 30:4; what does it mean?

To say I am stuck on the Deut. passage tells me you haven’t any idea how to justify your belief to the passage. The language is simple and nothing is hidden in it, so it can be read and understood for what it literally says.

Why are we back on Micah? Didn’t I e…[Read more]

@ Berean,

You end your post with “No answer?” Was I suppose to answer this before you posted it!?!? Or is there a misunderstanding in what you wrote; a transnational issue between languages?

What did you explain concerning the Deut 18 verses? Absolutely nothing! You revert back to what you have been educated in and say here’s your proof, just…[Read more]

@ Proclaimer,

Post #943063

“Jesus Christ being the first born of all creation and having first place in all things”. Does this mean Christ preexisted or he was first to be raised from the dead and receive God’s glory?

“If Jesus Christ is not the Word or the first to be with God then who was?” Christ is the flesh that came from the word; the…[Read more]

@ Berean,

Deut. 18:15 (Moses speaking) Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet from your midst, of your brothers, like me. You shall listen to him.

Deut. 18:17,18 Yahweh said to me (Moses), “They have well said that which they have spoken.  18 I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers, like you. I will put my words in hi…[Read more]

@ Berean,

You take off on a long dissertation on the Talmud and Pharisees and miss what I actually said. The quoting was only to show what the Jews believe.

Please explain Deut 18:15,18 and how we have a preexistent Christ.

Look up Hellenism, this thinking was infiltrating the early church.

@ Proclaimer,

Clarity of a statement you made in an earlier post (#942749) about how the trinity doctrine and preexistence doctrine are not mutually exclusive. This means both are truth; yet you reject the one and except the other. Was this a typo?

I will assert both doctrines are false teachings, because this wasn’t the Jewish belief. If it w…[Read more]

@ Proclaimer,

Please explain what each of these verses you sited mean and how they relate to a preexisting son in heaven at creation:

Hebrews 1:1-2
1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and t…[Read more]

@ Carmel,

Again I ask you, what faith do you associate with and why do you fear sharing it?

“GOD  WHO IS ETERNAL, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS SATANIC PHYSICAL MORTAL WORLD…”

Seriously!! The God I serve is active all around me.

“ALL WOMEN WERE SATAN’S PROPERTY THROUGH EVE’S SIN AS SHE SINNED FIRST AND SATAN FOR THE FIRST EVER TIME OCCUPIED H…[Read more]

@ Gene,

I haven’t stopped posting; I am simply buried in the happenings of life, so certain things become less of a priority. I will admit, to a point, the futility of posting my thoughts and responding to others; but I haven’t dusted my feet off yet.

I come from a perspective that most do not. I believed in the trinity, I believed in the…[Read more]

@ Berean,

JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

Please refer to the following link and read again and focus on the meat of what I said. The “us/our” of Gen 1:26; theologians “universally admitted” Jesus wasn’t the plural to whom God was speaking to. So who would be left for God to speak with? The…[Read more]

@ Proclaimer,

#10 doesn’t make sense, Jesus was in heaven at creation as God’s son, came to earth and became a man, only to return to heaven as the son again? Please clarify.

@ Proclaimer,

What does it mean Christ “emptied himself”?

Emptied himself of what?

@ Proclaimer,

What does it mean Christ existed in the form of God?

@ Proclaimer,

Did Jesus ever say he was the “word” or “the word”?

Please provide scriptural examples.