@Nick,

You still don’t understand, I am merely asking questions and offering additional thoughts, albeit contrary to what I have been taught for over 40 years. You still have answered zero questions; which tells me you aren’t as strong in your faith as you think you are. You keep saying “nothing new under the sun”; then my questions should have…[Read more]

@Nick,

I’m not asking anyone to join me. I’m asking questions that no one seems to be able or willing to answer. Your responses are an excellent example and proves you cannot answer them either. Am I not suppose to question anything? Am I suppose to just blindly accept all that the church tells me? Is blind faith even faith?

Oh wait, I suppose…[Read more]

@Gene,

Either I am not explaining it properly or you are intentionally ignoring/rejecting what is being said.

You: “no where in the Old Testament doe it say Jesus would be in the Grave three days and three nights”

Me: Exactly!! YET, Paul said this was “according to scripture.” If this is “according to scripture”, the only “scripture”…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,

Everyone seems to forget, I was on the same page (few exceptions) with most posting here. In fact was encouraged in my writings by some. Then about two months ago I came across the I Cor 15:3,4 verse; but didn’t gloss over it this time and everything was overturned…AGAIN! I have been “given” passages that are said to be poi…[Read more]

@Danny,

What is the point of your statement?

The definition of deceive is “to cause to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid.” Please do tell me where or what I have said that caused you to accept what is false or invalid. To be “deceived”, one must accept; so your example of types of “deceivers” makes no sense.

Nowhere have I denied…[Read more]

@ Danny,

“Heaven Net is dedicated to freedom of speech in our forums. While posts are moderated, we do not clamp down on opposing views like many platforms do today. Instead, we moderate the likes of spam, forum flooding, hate speech, and dodgy content. Opposing views will be challenged for sure, but not silenced.”

Any questions?

@Berean

I have been over Isa 53:9 before, go find my response. If you want to believe Isa 53 is Jesus – fantastic. Now find where in the OT the Messiah was to be buried and raised up in three days!

Begin!

@Nick

It is obvious you don’t want to be a part of the conversation, as you have brought nothing to it except contention. Why are you here? Reciprocity is what makes a conversation work; ask a question, have question answered and vice versa. A concept that apparently is foreign to you.

Good luck!

@Nick,

Did you just ask me a question without answering mine? Let’s do this, answer one of my questions and I’ll answer one of yours. I am tired of this question “goal post” moving and me required to answer everyone’s questions while mine remain unanswered.

By the way, what am I suppose to repent of?

@Nick,

So what you’re saying is you aren’t going to answer any of my questions…understood.

Good thing Proclaimer created this website so we could discuss our like thoughts.

@Nick,

I am quoting scripture from the OT and comparing it to its usage in NT; and asking why they don’t match. Apparently my questions are to difficult for you or by answering them truthfully it will overturn your world just like it did mine and it scares you!

Either answer the questions or ignore the conversation!

@Nick,

Why are you so afraid to answer my questions?

@Nick,

So far you have offered nothing to this conversation, other than accusations and condemnation; none of which answer any of the questions I’ve asked. I asked one primary question, Paul said “according to scripture” the Messiah was to die for the sins of mankind, be buried and raised up on the third day. This means it is written in the OT; f…[Read more]

@Nick,
You: “Understand that the anointed sons of God in Christ Jesus explain and interpret the OT.”

Me: Are we to just accept their interpretations as being truth or do we verify what they’re saying against what the OT actually says? Is there an amount of “twisting” of God’s words that is acceptable?

Anyways, what you’re saying is you have no i…[Read more]

@Nick,

I need you to focus like a laser beam on what I am going to show you; then grab your favorite bible and verify it for yourself.

Rom 10:5-8

5 For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness. 6 But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “Do not say in your h…[Read more]

@Gene,

You still haven’t read a thing I have said.

First, the term/name/phrase “suffering servant” is found NOWHERE in the bible. This term/name/phrase is man made to create a title for this chapter in Isaiah. So the only thing to be understood in this chapter is God’s “servant”, not “suffering servant.”

Second, I have asked you who is speaking…[Read more]

@Gene,

Sorry, but you are reaching to validate what you cannot or will not answer and trying to justify it away.

You: where did Paul ever say “everything written in the New Testament must be found in the Old Testament”

Me: Not speaking of everything written; just when Paul said “according to scripture”, this really isn’t that hard. The OT is…[Read more]

@Berean,

Isa.42
Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth;

And your question is when did God’s “soul” delight in Israel/Jacob.

The first part that has to be answered is who is “mine elect” or “my chosen”? According to Strong’s 972 “bachir” means chosen and other word usages are “chosen one” and “elect.” “Ba…[Read more]

@Nick,

You’re “shooting” the messenger; I didn’t make the claim, Paul did. I’m verifying the claim and can’t find it. Hence the question to where in the OT is Paul’s claim. So instead of answering the question, most get defensive and then combative as I ask more questions or offer explanations contrary to what is taught. If the answer is so o…[Read more]

@Nick,

Maybe you can answer the question surrounding what is stated in I Cor 15:3,4 where Paul states “according to scripture” the Messiah was to die for the sins of mankind and be buried and raised from the dead after three days. Paul makes the claim and there was no NT in the first century, so Paul was speaking of it being “prophesied” in the…[Read more]