bodhitharta replied to the topic DavidL and Bodhitharta discuss trinity in the forum Debates 9 years, 6 months ago
All Three members of the Godhead can be seen as God individually..
But within the trinity the Father is Head..
Thus He is the God of Christ..
So, would it be agreeable then that God whom you call the Father is “God Most High”?
You do agree that while Christ has a God, the Father has no God for He is The Most High, is that correct?
bodhitharta replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
Perhaps you missed the opening of the chapter where it says:
Rev1:1 Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to shew to his bondmen what must shortly take place; and he signified , sending by his angel, to his bondman John,
This says that God gave this to Jesus Christ, what does that mean to you? Now keep in mind it doesn’t…[Read more]
bodhitharta replied to the topic The image of God in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
“..the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He existed as the image of God – He existed as God.
He is another (the Son) – He is the same (I and the Father are One)
“The Father is Greater than I”
Let go of your obsession with third century doctrine and believe what Scripture says..
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what
[Read more] Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 22:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 years, 6 months ago
“..the throne of God and of the Lamb.”
Seriously @DavidL, read on (again). Who sits on Jesus throne? One? two? many?
To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.
Do you continually need to be corrected? Can you not let the Spirit of truth gui…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic An Apostasy – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
For us there is one God the Father, and one Lord the Lord Jesus Christ.
Are you one with us @DavidL ?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 6 months ago
“I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.” – try confessing that one…!!!!
I confess that Jesus and the Father are one. I also confess that we can be one and one with both the Father and the Son.
Can you confess our oneness I wonder?
bodhitharta replied to the topic DavidL and Bodhitharta discuss trinity in the forum Debates 9 years, 6 months ago
@DavidL
When asked who God is your answer is that God is Jesus, Jehovah and The Holy Spirit so although there is this United Membership there is no God as in there being only One Member, would that be correct?I’m just trying to be very clear so that we can progress in our understanding of each others view point, so would you say there is no G…[Read more]
bodhitharta replied to the topic Does Religion Cause All Wars? in the forum Faith 9 years, 6 months ago
Very good point about Cain
The orthodox Jews called Hitler the agent of divine wrath but also many who hold high the Christian banner has done horrible things and while we can say it is not acceptable to us we can not simply accuse them of not being Christians because ultimately people have to work out their own salvation with fear…[Read more]
bodhitharta replied to the topic Does Religion Cause All Wars? in the forum Faith 9 years, 6 months ago
Very good point!
The orthodox Jews called Hitler the agent of divine wrath but also many who hold high the Christian banner has done horrible things and while we can say it is not acceptable to us we can not simply accuse them of not being Christians because ultimately people have to work out their own salvation with fear and…[Read more]
bodhitharta replied to the topic You do not OWN The GOD of ISARAEL in the forum Faith 9 years, 6 months ago
How do you stand with this verse then bd..?
“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” – John 3:36
This is totally true within the context in which it if stated outside of that context it can be more available for discussion, the c…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 6 months ago
@DavidL
Jesus as the son of the living God and the messiah is a sure foundational truth that you can build your faith upon.
But if you build upon another foundation, your works will fall when that foundation falls and all foundations not of God will crumble.Trust in the words of Peter when he said, “You are the son of the Living God and the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 6 months ago
If you are a son of God, then if you told me you were God, then you would not by your definition be a son of God right.
Its the same simple truth with Jesus Christ. He is the son of God, so therefore he is not God, but his son.
He is the one that God made both Lord and Christ.
How about confessing that now. All will do that eventually.…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 6 months ago
If you are a son of God, then if you told me you were God, then you would not by your definition be a son of God right.
Its the same simple truth with Jesus Christ. He is the son of God, so therefore he is not God, but his son.
He is the one that God made both Lord and Christ.
How about confessing that now. All will do that eventually.…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 6 months ago
If you are a son of God, then if you told me you were God, then you would not by your definition be a son of God right.
Its the same simple truth with Jesus Christ. He is the son of God, so therefore he is not God, but his son.
He is the one that God made both Lord and Christ.
How about confessing that now. All will do that eventually.…[Read more]bodhitharta replied to the topic Supporting the Trinity Doctrine? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 7 months ago
Hi t8
@DavidL. Your view of being one with God means that you cannot be one with God as that would be blasphemy in your eyes.
You poor fellow. I am allowed to be one with God, but you are not by reason of your doctrine which you believe.
So how can I trust the words of a man who does not believe he can be one with God?
your doctrine is equal…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Supporting the Trinity Doctrine? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 7 months ago
@DavidL. Your view of being one with God means that you cannot be one with God as that would be blasphemy in your eyes.
You poor fellow. I am allowed to be one with God, but you are not by reason of your doctrine which you believe.
So how can I trust the words of a man who does not believe he can be one with God?
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 9 years, 7 months ago
@DavidL. Hopefully you are one with God and Jesus as Jesus prayed that we should.
But if this oneness makes you God as you claim, THEN YOU CANNOT BE ONE WITH GOD.
You have been caught out in your own craftiness DavidL.
Either way you have lost your point because from your standpoint, you are either not one with God, or you are and that makes…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 9 years, 7 months ago
@DavidL. Hopefully you are one with God and Jesus as Jesus prayed that we should.
But if this oneness makes you God as you claim, THEN YOU CANNOT BE ONE WITH GOD.
You have been caught out in your own craftiness DavidL.
Either way you have lost your point because from your standpoint, you are either not one with God, or you are and that makes…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 7 months ago
How about – Let’s be honest..!!
To be frank is to be honest about the situation or your opinions.
But being honest DavidL would be great. I welcome it. Honesty would allow much progress.
So let’s be honest about the following to start with.There is one God the Father right?
Not according to you. To you there is one God the Father, Son…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 9 years, 7 months ago
Scripture speaks of the Son as God, the Spirit as God, and the Father as God
Why do you ignore that it also calls the sons of God and theos and angels as elohim?
Further, even Satan is called a theos.
Just because others are called or described as theos does not mean the Trinity is so DavidL. Is the Devil or the Judges of Israel part of…[Read more]
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