ok brother this is what I think… Adam did not BEGIN to die – but the same day he sinned he died..!! (Gen 2:17) That death was spiritual – Adam became separated from God in his spirit.. Adam experienced physical death much later when his soul separated from his body..
When we receive Jesus and are born again we are connected again in our spirit…[Read more]

There are some pretty scary verses concerning hell, Rev. 14:10-11 says, “The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of His indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment…[Read more]

man died the day he ate the fruit in the garden.. spiritually he was separated from God ..Lake of fire – SECOND death..ETERNAL separation..FOREVER..

really you are getting mixed up in the meaning of words..the righteous inherit eternal life – the wicked eternal death.. eternal separation from God..

..you’re saying that the idea/belief of hell being eternal is not true, but rather a Christian ‘Tradition’ handed down to us..

you mention the ‘Second death’ – hell thrown into the lake of fire..but we know from Rev. 20:10 that the torment of this second death is an everlasting torment, “..and shall be tormented day and night for ever and…[Read more]

Ok..you say these Scriptures dispel the traditional view of an eternal hell (and I WILL take a look at them..) but why do I feel like you’re avoiding the actual meaning of the word ‘destruction’ as found in any Bible Dictionary you happen to pick up…which puts it very black and white – not annihilation, not extinction..!!??

Thanks..ok (I still hope you’ll check out another Bible Dictionary definition for ‘Destruction’ sometime..) – so I’m thinking that the point in question is whether or not the second death (mentioned in Chapters 20,21 of Rev.) is in essence a state of extinction – where those condemned by this judgement are utterly and completely consumed to the…[Read more]

phew – you sure give one plenty to think about..but I guess it WILL take a lot of convincing to persuade me the Bible teaches ‘annihilation’ is the second death..(even the word ‘death’ itself means ‘separation’..) – and are you saying Bible Dictionaries and lexicons are incorrect when they give the definition of ‘Destruction’ as NOT meaning…[Read more]

Thanks – I know it will be hard for me to try and see hell in a ‘finite’ sense, but will definitely give some thought to what you have shared..
Blessings..!!

Hi David..I saw in your discussions with Alan that you do not believe in an eternal hell, and read here your Scriptural support for this concept. I have always been of the mind that hell is eternal, but am open to learn anything from the Bible that teachers otherwise..
I do recall that the SDA’s (Seventh Day Adventists) also teach this same…[Read more]