Yes – ‘moronic’ to all you high-minded know-it-alls…but in despising this you only confirm the truth of it more, because God has chosen what is foolish to the world to shame human wisdom…
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unfortunately by your own perceived intellect (like the learned Pharisees of old), you too have become blinded to the simple realities revealed in God’s…[Read more]

I trust in the Word of God – you say you do too, but the evidence you present shows that you put a lot of credence in the philosophical thinking of scientific men..which then allows you to start dissecting the Scriptures to suit your own preconceived ideas of what you think they should say (the same error as the cults – and the reason they ARE…[Read more]

A wake up call..?? Huh – you are so presumptuous..!! I woke up along time ago to the doctrines and creeds of man – which is EXACTLY why I don’t accept YOUR teachings…you just present to us more theological rubbish…!!!

…something that is spiritually discerned…
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“The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned ONLY through the Spirit.” – 1 Corinthians 2:14

To deny the Holy Spirit over your so-called ‘common sense’ is the reason why we have so much confusion today..!!
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If the Word is Holy Spirit ‘inspired’ then it should make ‘sense’ to trust the Holy Spirit for our understanding of it..
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When John said to Test the spirits he didn’t say ‘test the doctrine’ (that’s all the Pharisees did) – to…[Read more]

Jesus is God – John 1:1 declares it..!!
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you quote outside of Scripture to deny what Scripture says, then have the audacity to say that what you believe is Scriptural..?!

Please let Mike answer his own questions – he’s the one defending NWT..

A skilled lawyer is one that can acquit the defendant regardless of whether he’s guilty or not…he has no intention of establishing the facts, only in winning the case..
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I wonder if you people who attack the Trinity are more interested in winning arguments, than establishing truth .. ?
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Yet unlike lawyers, we who love the truth must be…[Read more]

wrong again sorry – Jesus was made both Lord and Christ by God..!!
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The problem resides in your logical understanding, that somehow convinces you that this verse (and the 100 others) somehow relates to and denies the oneness of the Lord Jesus with God (the Father with the Son) – when it doesn’t..
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In trying to make sense of God you look to…[Read more]

I thanked wondering for pointing out the difference between “Arian” and “Unitarian” – but it sounds like he’s got you guys a bit on edge..!
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The Godhead is all through Scripture – maybe when you finally get round to giving us the correct translation of John 1:1, (what EXACTLY you think it says), we can look at some of these other verses.. 🙂

So I guess it would be fair to say that we accept Jesus is Lord and Messiah – but reject the other extra-biblical evidence you produce, as deceptive and misleading…
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The contention is whether belief in the Godhead is Scriptural or not… which is really quite obvious to any unbiased reader of the Word..
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again – I believe we can trust what…[Read more]

The revelation a believer receives today through reading his Bible is no less true than that of Peter’s…
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You say the Trinity contradicts Scripture – but how can it when it proceeds from Scripture..!!??
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The problem is you either deny what the Scripture means, or try and change the wording of verses that are clear evidence for the Godhead…[Read more]

Thanks..

You say the Bible has been corrupted by Trinitarian translators…but in my opinion you’ve completely missed the mark, and are really being distracted from the real corruption that is taking place within the church today..(that has nothing to do with the Trinity doctrine)..
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The reason heaven doesn’t recognize what the church is preaching is…[Read more]

I’m a disciple – not a Pharisee or Theologian..
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You say you believe the Scriptures yet you quote a lot of stuff from outside Scripture to try and prove what you believe about the Scriptures is true…(?)
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You say Athanasius and others crafted the Trinity Doctrine…yet, as I will point out, the working of the Godhead is plainly evident to…[Read more]

Yes – Jesus is the Christ, Son of the Living God..
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so tell me again – How did Peter, this uneducated fisherman reach such a profound conclusion about Christ..?
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Oh, that’s right, he studied the formation of historical doctrine for years, and the endless philosophical thoughts of all those wise rabbis..debating night and day with the…[Read more]

you’re the one sliding all over the place – maybe it’s your way of trying to win arguments (make what I say sound confusing), but that’s your choice..
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I thought you would understand the doctrine of the Trinity..One God – three persons..!!??

I was simply responding to Mike’s challenge concerning the Jehovah Witnesses translation of John 1:1..
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This is not why I reject their Bible, but only to show one reason why Bible Scholars reject it..

You say my belief contradicts Scripture..I say your logic contradicts belief..!!

I am starting to question the reliability of your intellect when you ascribe such ridiculous statements as – “Jesus is the Son of Himself” to the doctrine of the Trinity..!!
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Jesus, as the Son of God, is equal to and One with the Father..that is what I believe Scripture teaches..