DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
NickHassan,
So you admit to using unoriginal arguments…
The unity that Jesus described is unity in the Spirit.
The apostles demonstrated the same spiritual unity with God and His Son.
..if what you say is a true representation of the Scriptures, then you should be able to answer my original question – What apostle of Christ ever said – or…[Read more]
DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
So you admit to using unoriginal arguments…
The unity that Jesus described is unity in the Spirit.
The apostles demonstrated the same spiritual unity with God and His Son.
..if what you say is a true representation of the Scriptures, then you should be able to answer my original question – What apostle of Christ ever said – or could have…[Read more]
DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
Why are suspicious about motives?
..because it’s the same borrowed argument t8 uses..
DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
evidence of what – that they and the Father are one..? when did they say that..?
DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
no..
DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
The Word was God is what scripture says
But you change that and say the Word IS God.?
Jesus descended from the Father (with God, was God) and became a man – now He has been exalted back into the presence of God with the glory He had with the Father before the world began… isn’t this what Scripture says…?
You seemed to imply that Jesus…
DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
And Jesus prayed that we also would be one with himself and the Father.
That does not make us God so what is the point you are making?
What point are YOU making – are you one with God as Jesus prayed…?
Or this another of your useless arguments…?!
DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
And Jesus prayed that we also would be one with himself and the Father.
That does not make us God so what is the point you are making?
What point are YOU making – are you one with God as Jesus prayed…?
Or this this another of your useless arguments…?!
DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
And Jesus prayed that we also would be one with himself and the Father.
That does not make us God so what is the point you are making?
What point are YOU making – are you one with God as Jesus prayed…?
DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
to be called the ONLY TRUE GOD must mean something else, something that even Jesus separates himself from. Jesus considers himself subservient to his father which would mean that his father is The Most High and isn’t that what really God is? The Most High:
Psalm 57:2
I will cry unto God Most High, unto God that performeth all things for m…DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
to be called the ONLY TRUE GOD must mean something else, something that even Jesus separates himself from. Jesus considers himself subservient to his father which would mean that his father is The Most High and isn’t that what really God is? The Most High:
Psalm 57:2
I will cry unto God Most High, unto God that performeth all things for m…DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
to be called the ONLY TRUE GOD must mean something else, something that even Jesus separates himself from. Jesus considers himself subservient to his father which would mean that his father is The Most High and isn’t that what really God is? The Most High:
Psalm 57:2
I will cry unto God Most High, unto God that performeth all things for m…DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
to be called the ONLY TRUE GOD must mean something else, something that even Jesus separates himself from. Jesus considers himself subservient to his father which would mean that his father is The Most High and isn’t that what really God is? The Most High:
Psalm 57:2
I will cry unto God Most High, unto God that performeth all things for m…DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
This is good development here as this is not trinitarian belief,
I believe Scripture portrays the Holy Spirit and the Son in perfect unity with the Father as one with God (a Tri – unity) One God – not three…you can decide if that’s trinitarian enough for you…yet if you want to examine that unity or perfect oneness (the essence of Divine Love),…[Read more]
DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
If God did the works through Jesus as with the prophets before him what reason do you have for making him another god?
I have quoted Jesus, “I and the Father are one.” – when have I said He is another god?
If you are not born of the Spirit, you will forever remain trapped within the confines of your human logic.. just like those old…[Read more]
DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
I believe that Jesus as the Son, exists in a place of equality with the Father…He is with God – He is God…(one in complete unity)
This is certainly how the Jews understood the aspect of Jesus calling Himself ‘Son’, “For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but…[Read more]
DavidL replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
I believe that Jesus as the Son, exists in a place of equality with the Father…He is with God – He is God…(one in complete unity)
This is certainly how the Jews understood the aspect of Jesus calling Himself ‘Son’, “F<span class=”highl”>or this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was…[Read more]
DavidL replied to the topic Supporting the Trinity Doctrine? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
prejudices..because I accept the truth you cannot understand…?!
I have given you Scripture, but you just ignore it…!!
The Pharisees loved debating Scripture too, Nick..
..what did Jesus say…?
“You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me: and you are unwilling to come…[Read more]
DavidL replied to the topic Supporting the Trinity Doctrine? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
prejudices..because I accept the truth you cannot understand…?!
I have given you Scripture, but you just ignore it…!!
The Pharisees loved debating Scripture too, Nick..
..what did Jesus say…?
<span class=”highl”>”You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me:</span> and…[Read more]
DavidL replied to the topic Supporting the Trinity Doctrine? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 1 month ago
really, I will have to assume you are another one who just likes to talk about religious things..without any personal experience of knowing who Jesus is..
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