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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (davidbfun @ July 28 2010,15:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,13:42)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,13:30)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,12:46)Davidbfun said;Quote But the Word (Jesus, SON of God) can not be God (Father), biological absurdity. Word (son) = Father (God)Of course the son cannot be the father biologically. But the…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,13:42)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,13:30)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,12:46)Davidbfun said;Quote But the Word (Jesus, SON of God) can not be God (Father), biological absurdity. Word (son) = Father (God)Of course the son cannot be the father biologically. But the son can be ontologically the same as…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,13:42)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,13:30)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,12:46)Davidbfun said;Quote But the Word (Jesus, SON of God) can not be God (Father), biological absurdity. Word (son) = Father (God)Of course the son cannot be the father biologically. But the son can be ontologically the same as…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,14:28)Davidbfun said:Quote You don't realize that God isn't metaphysical.  Just because you say so doesn't make it soYou have in essence said that God does not have being. Hebrews 1 says that Jesus is the EXACT representation of God's substance. The word “exact” is the Greek “charakter” which means…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,14:28)Davidbfun said:Quote You don't realize that God isn't metaphysical.  Just because you say so doesn't make it soYou have in essence said that God does not have being. Hebrews 1 says that Jesus is the EXACT representation of God's substance. The word “exact” is the Greek “charakter” which means…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,12:34)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,12:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,10:03)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 27 2010,09:53)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,01:39)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,07:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,11:41)Quote (JustAskin @ July 23 2010,20:02)Jesus is both…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,12:34)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,12:23)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,10:03)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 27 2010,09:53)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,01:39)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,07:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,11:41)Quote (JustAskin @ July 23 2010,20:02)Jesus is both…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,13:26)Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2010,13:11)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,04:46)Davidbfun said;Quote But the Word (Jesus, SON of God) can not be God (Father), biological absurdity. Word (son) = Father (God)Of course the son cannot be the father biologically. But the son can be ontologically the same as the…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,13:26)Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2010,13:11)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,04:46)Davidbfun said;Quote But the Word (Jesus, SON of God) can not be God (Father), biological absurdity. Word (son) = Father (God)Of course the son cannot be the father biologically. But the son can be ontologically the same as the…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,12:46)Davidbfun said;Quote But the Word (Jesus, SON of God) can not be God (Father), biological absurdity. Word (son) = Father (God)Of course the son cannot be the father biologically. But the son can be ontologically the same as the father.Son of Man = Man.Son of God = God (though not the Father).KJHello…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,12:46)Davidbfun said;Quote But the Word (Jesus, SON of God) can not be God (Father), biological absurdity. Word (son) = Father (God)Of course the son cannot be the father biologically. But the son can be ontologically the same as the father.Son of Man = Man.Son of God = God (though not the Father).KJHello…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,10:54)Gene said;Quote Thomas called Jesus my Lord and My GOD, meaning the same person or being is also an (ASSUMPTION) on you part, You have no proof that he was not simply recognizing the GOD the Father was Present (IN) Jesus His LORD. The (AND) imply s (TWO) not necessarily the same person but can just as…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,10:54)Gene said;Quote Thomas called Jesus my Lord and My GOD, meaning the same person or being is also an (ASSUMPTION) on you part, You have no proof that he was not simply recognizing the GOD the Father was Present (IN) Jesus His LORD. The (AND) imply s (TWO) not necessarily the same person but can just as…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 28 2010,10:34)WJ…………..Mighty God and the (ALMIGHTY GOD) are not the same thing. One is powerful the other is (ALL) powerful. Saying they are the same is an (ASSUMPTION) on you part.Thomas called Jesus my Lord and My GOD, meaning the same person or being is also an (ASSUMPTION) on you part, You have no proof that…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 28 2010,10:34)WJ…………..Mighty God and the (ALMIGHTY GOD) are not the same thing. One is powerful the other is (ALL) powerful. Saying they are the same is an (ASSUMPTION) on you part.Thomas called Jesus my Lord and My GOD, meaning the same person or being is also an (ASSUMPTION) on you part, You have no proof that…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,10:03)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 27 2010,09:53)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,01:39)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,07:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,11:41)Quote (JustAskin @ July 23 2010,20:02)Jesus is both 'Son of God' and 'Son of Man'Exactly, Son of God and Son of Man.Son of man =…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,10:03)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 27 2010,09:53)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2010,01:39)Quote (davidbfun @ July 27 2010,07:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,11:41)Quote (JustAskin @ July 23 2010,20:02)Jesus is both 'Son of God' and 'Son of Man'Exactly, Son of God and Son of Man.Son of man =…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ July 28 2010,06:18)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 22 2010,07:07)If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and “from henceforth ye know him (God), and have seen him (God)”. John 14:17Like I said, you disagree that God is invisible and that no one can see him. Whereas I believe that, and understand that while you can't…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ July 28 2010,07:17)@ davidbfun. Good points, but I think the answer that Trinitarians can always fall back on is that God is beyond understanding and leave it there.The problem is that God has revealed certain things about himself that he intends for us to understand, and the Trinity Doctrine flies in the face of that. For example,…[Read more]

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    davidbfun replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ July 28 2010,07:17)@ davidbfun. Good points, but I think the answer that Trinitarians can always fall back on is that God is beyond understanding and leave it there.The problem is that God has revealed certain things about himself that he intends for us to understand, and the Trinity Doctrine flies in the face of that. For example,…[Read more]

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