Quote (Arnold @ July 06 2010,14:23)Quote (davidbfun @ July 06 2010,03:07)Eloh = goddess (noun, fem)(root)im = suffix (masc, plural)From this Hebrew word we can see that God (Elohim)   consists of two essences, male and female.  If God were only male the Hebrew word is El = God (noun, masc).  Gen 1:27 God (Elohim) created man in God's image; ma…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 05 2010,01:11)Quote The thread is about Elohim (not animals) and God's two essences.Yes, I know, but you are basing your whole idea on the scripture in Genesis, and wouldn't it therefore make sense to look at it in context?While it doesn't specifically say that this is how humans differ from animals, if you look at the…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 05 2010,11:40)Quote (david @ Aug. 05 2010,01:11)Quote The thread is about Elohim (not animals) and God's two essences.Yes, I know, but you are basing your whole idea on the scripture in Genesis, and wouldn't it therefore make sense to look at it in context?While it doesn't specifically say that this is how humans differ…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 05 2010,01:11)Quote The thread is about Elohim (not animals) and God's two essences.Yes, I know, but you are basing your whole idea on the scripture in Genesis, and wouldn't it therefore make sense to look at it in context?While it doesn't specifically say that this is how humans differ from animals, if you look at the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 05 2010,09:21)TO All…………..Elohim simply put means (POWER) THE PICTORIAL LANGUAGE OF THE ORIGINAL pictograph language of the the Hebrews was the drawn as a head of an OX with a STAFF next to it. The OX re[presented (POWER) and the Staff is what they leaned or trusted on for support. Just that simple. why try to…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 05 2010,01:04)Quote (david @ Aug. 03 2010,17:13)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 03 2010,15:47)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2010,14:10)Quote (david @ Aug. 03 2010,04:45)Because if “of” sometimes has to be added when translating it into Greek, then you have no argument.  If “of” already exists in Hebrew, and it isn't in that Genesis Scripture,…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2010,16:06)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 04 2010,05:21)Hello Ed,Hopefully this will be my last response to an errant conclusion coming from insignificant numbers that aren't in the Bible.This is what is clear.  Your deceptions are very “clear”, now.The ProfessorHi David,Matt.7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 04 2010,13:40)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 04 2010,04:15)Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 04 2010,07:51)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 03 2010,15:39)Quote (david @ Aug. 03 2010,12:49)Quote You are right about “elohim” referring to gods.  Notice the only time it is “singular” is when it is referring to The Supreme Being, God, and that is what…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2010,18:41)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 04 2010,10:19)The problem with understanding the “true knowledge” goes back to Col 1:15.  If you don't accept Jesus as the firstborn and want to explain away firstborn, you'll try to explain “him” to be someone else (Greek/Jew/circumcised,etc), other than Jesus, who was created by…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2010,18:41)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 04 2010,10:19)The problem with understanding the “true knowledge” goes back to Col 1:15.  If you don't accept Jesus as the firstborn and want to explain away firstborn, you'll try to explain “him” to be someone else (Greek/Jew/circumcised,etc), other than Jesus, who was created by…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 26 2010,12:22)Quote (davidbfun @ July 25 2010,14:33)Hello Irene,If Jesus is the firstborn of all things created….He IS the BEGINNING (since God has no beginning.)You are right! Jesus had a beginning…as the son of God.DavidHi David,Be careful with that kind of phrasing.  I'm debating SimplyForgiven right now on this…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 26 2010,12:17)Quote (davidbfun @ July 25 2010,14:26)Col 3:10 and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One who created him…..One = GodGod created him (Jesus) Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God….3:10 is only reiterating and proving that Jesus is a…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2010,04:42)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 03 2010,15:47)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2010,14:10)Quote (david @ Aug. 03 2010,04:45)Because if “of” sometimes has to be added when translating it into Greek, then you have no argument.  If “of” already exists in Hebrew, and it isn't in that Genesis Scripture, then we have an anomoly.Hi…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 04 2010,01:19)Quote Hello David,Thank you for your assurance that the Bible does not say this:Gen 1:27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.I'd rather believe the Bible than have your assurances.  I really believe it can mean what it says.Regardless of how you…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 04 2010,07:51)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 03 2010,15:39)Quote (david @ Aug. 03 2010,12:49)Quote You are right about “elohim” referring to gods.  Notice the only time it is “singular” is when it is referring to The Supreme Being, God, and that is what this Thread is all about.  That is why I put my comment in how I thought t…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2010,14:10)Quote (david @ Aug. 03 2010,04:45)Because if “of” sometimes has to be added when translating it into Greek, then you have no argument.  If “of” already exists in Hebrew, and it isn't in that Genesis Scripture, then we have an anomoly.Hi david,Neither The Hebrew Masoretic Texts nor the Greek language have a word…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 03 2010,12:49)Quote You are right about “elohim” referring to gods.  Notice the only time it is “singular” is when it is referring to The Supreme Being, God, and that is what this Thread is all about.  That is why I put my comment in how I thought that Elohim is the NAME of this Supreme Being to distinguish Himself from all o…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2010,14:15)Quote (david @ Aug. 03 2010,05:08)Quote v.27 repeated “image” twice and then said that “male and female” were God's image.  I don't want to debate the word “image” and what that means…..I only know the product of “image” = male and female  And I know that because GOD SAID SO in verse 26.I assure you it does not s…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2010,14:05)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 03 2010,04:24)Ed,I try to keep it light by showing how arbitrarily you come up with numbers…and then try to attach importance to the numbers.The ProfessorHi David,Others here on this forum consider it arbitrarily for you to try to make god into part female.God blessEd…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 03 2010,21:05)Hi Shimmer, JA, WJ and All,Psalm 2:7  NASB “I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.Shimmer asked:Quote Which day was this day, what is begotten,You are right in your thought that it all boils down to these two things, along with the “You are my…[Read more]