Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 11 2010,22:22)Yes, Ed J, I have asked a loaded question.  However, if you feel like the scenario that I presented is incorrect, you should be able to explain how.By the way, if your version of “Bible Truth” differs radically from mainstream christianity when it comes to salvation, then you should probably start off by…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 11 2010,11:56)Ed J,I believe that critical question in my opneing post was this one:Now, for justice to be served, who do you think the town should punish?That's the one that actually addresses the scenario that I laid out.What,A wise sage once said, “That brings up another interesting debate point that is pointless.…[Read more]

The quesiton arose in my mind: God:  Muslim God is the same God as the Christian God?  So I quickly checked online to see what the differences are:The Quran's Surah 17 111 says: “Praise be to Allah, who begets no son, and has no partner in (His) domain. Surah 4 171 says: “O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor, say of A…[Read more]

Mercy:1-the discretionary power of a judge to pardon someone or to mitigate punishment;2- an act of kindness, compassion, or favor:3- something that gives evidence of divine favor; blessing:I put it this way: Mercy: NOT getting what you deserve. (Death-2nd; Eternal punishment)Grace: Getting something we don't deserve. (Divine favor,…[Read more]

Quote (barley @ Aug. 13 2010,17:12)Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 07 2010,14:22)Hi,Does it really matter if someone believes in the Trinity or not ?A non Trinitarian would feel uncomfortable in a Church where people are worshipping Jesus, as there is little mention of God, or if God is mentioned I think most would be thinking of Jesus . To a Non…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 13 2010,23:23)All, sorry, I don't have time to answer right now, I will later, but what is this..God sent his (spoken word) into the world through the man Christ JesusThe word was God.Trinitarian or non Trinitarian ?Hi Shimmer,As Ed pointed out Greek doesn't have a word “of” so when you add the word as we would use it in…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 12 2010,08:14)Thanks Marty, I was getting pretty confused reading here tonight, over in the begotten thread, they saying all sorts of things, too complex for me, it was good to read your post back here, easy to understand,   Babylonia, right here !Do you believe then it is wrong to say God begat God, as in Jesus pre-existant…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 08 2010,05:17)Shimmer,As far as not sinning I do not say “no one is perfect” for God has the power to do anything and will do it for those who seek him.  I do understand that human beings must mature is the spirit of Christ to become perfect and that even those who don’t yet have the spirit must grow in belief to the point…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Aug. 09 2010,17:36)The Trinity doctrine states the Son is coeternal with the Father. Others believe the Son was the first being Yahweh created. Either view believes the “Son” pre-existed prior to his earthly birth. If that is true, how are we to understand the following words Yahweh commanded Nathan to give to David?”When thy days…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 12 2010,23:30)Hi David,I took the liberty of correcting 'your work'. (1Thess.5:21)I hope this does not disturb you. (1Corinthians 3:11-15)1- =אלהים ĔL-ō-Hêêm is the Hebrew word for God.2- ĔL-ō-Hêêm created the heavens and the earth. (Gen.1:1)3- ĔL-ō-Hêêm's image consists of two expressions, both male and female. (Gen.…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Aug. 11 2010,23:43)Hi all,It is surprising that for the past two years no one has contributed to this thread. What is the reason?Hello GM,Are you kidding?  lolThere are hundreds to thousands of times where the Bible shows that Jesus is NOT God (and is a separate person from God) and you want to take a few that could be…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Aug. 07 2010,22:26)All Trinitarians I will ask you two questions.Is Jesus good?Is Jesus God?One verse from Jesus' own mouth tells us the answer18 ¶  A ruler questioned Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”19  And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.In Luke 18…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Aug. 07 2010,22:26)All Trinitarians I will ask you two questions.Is Jesus good?Is Jesus God?One verse from Jesus' own mouth tells us the answer18 ¶  A ruler questioned Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”19  And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.In Luke 18…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 11 2010,10:00)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 08 2010,00:20)Hey RM,Help me out, please.  I couldn't find that quote in Job.  I looked under, “LORD”, “alone”, “I alone created”, “created” (by the way created isn't a word in Job.Like Mike said you have to look at the word, then the context and the culture amongst other things to d…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 11 2010,13:11)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 11 2010,10:07)DBF…………………God did not create anything through any one ever, He did it Himself and alone as he said he did. He also said there was no other GOD besides himself and Jesus said He was the (ONLY) true GOD.  Jesus never said he had created anything nor did…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 11 2010,10:07)DBF…………………God did not create anything through any one ever, He did it Himself and alone as he said he did. He also said there was no other GOD besides himself and Jesus said He was the (ONLY) true GOD.  Jesus never said he had created anything nor did any of the apostles say he did either.…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 11 2010,10:07)DBF…………………God did not create anything through any one ever, He did it Himself and alone as he said he did. He also said there was no other GOD besides himself and Jesus said He was the (ONLY) true GOD.  Jesus never said he had created anything nor did any of the apostles say he did either.…[Read more]

Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 08 2010,00:35)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 06 2010,00:58)To all,Who is the creator?  As another post made it clear:THRU “JESUS” all things were created and apart from him nothing was created that was created….so the answer is simple…Jesus/Yahshua is the Creator's name.But he is not our God.The ProfessorIn Job, YHVH said HE…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2010,23:28)David The Professor,It is true that the ignorant and corrupt choose to misinterpret the term “love” but compassion for your fellow man and obedience to God are important components of godly love.  If your love does not have those components then it is empty in the eyes of God.   If you really love then you will b…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 10 2010,03:31)bump for davidHi SF,I'm confused…what does “bump for David” mean? Do I get points?