Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2010,20:38)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2010,12:07)Hi David,So by your Post: you “NOW” agree that it 'doesn't say' … 'and they said they created everything THRU Their son' 'You' are “clearly” reading into the text; called embellishing!Hi David,I agree with Ed here, and if you are honest, you will admit that “Elohim” is never…[Read more]

Mike,I am not a Hebrew expert and could not explain everything to perfection. Ask Ed. He knows that there isn't an “of” in the Masoretic text. Here is Hosea 12:5 in Hebrew and the words YHWH Elohim are together:ויהוה אלהי הצבאות יהוה זכרו׃ Literal: And YHWH Elohim the hosts YHWH remember.HaShem = the name; so by saying name in this sentence in…[Read more]

Ed,What do you make of this verse that says YHWH is a man?Exd 15:3 The LORD a “man” of war: the LORD his name. (KJV)

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2010,12:45)Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 08 2010,02:39)Mike,All of Genesis is showing how Elohim created everything,,,,which means BOTH essences of Elohim did the creating,,,and they said they created everything THRU Their son.  Hi DBF,Could you show us all the “Bible verse” where 'they' said this?Ed…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 07 2010,07:54)Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 06 2010,05:24)Hello JA,I see that you think knowing God is nonsense.The thread is short and simple and maybe someone will actually address it and disprove what the Scriptures say:Elohim is translated as God in Gen 1:1 In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.Elohim was…[Read more]

Hello Georg,I profess the truths of the Bible.You rant on and on yet you have not rebutted either Gen 1:2 or Gen 2:4 meaning Spirit Elohim and YHWH Elohim with any Scriptures.You don't even know “WHAT” the Spirit of God is….male or female and call learning about God blaspemous. Name calling doesn't further learning, does it? I've asserted some…[Read more]

Hi Georg,You're right, it appears that here on hn “trying” to enlighten people about the Bible is pointless.And quoting Scripture is blasphemous.Even trying to help people in “how to research/study” is forwned upon.Blasphemy is showing disrespect or irreverence to God and by denying an important essence of God/Elohim, “Spirit Elohim” you are…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 07 2010,22:51)David………The word Elohim simply means POWER in it simplest form. The First Pictorial word in Hebrew for God was the Head of an OX with a Staff along side it. The OX represented Strength or POWER, the Staff was what The leaned on for Support . Put it together it means the POWER they TRUSTED and Leaned…[Read more]

Mike,Even though the “true” God is Elohim that doesn't negate YHWH being that same “true” God, does it? And it doesn't negate Spirit being the “true” God, either. This is how the Bible can say that God is Spirit and still be true. (john 4:24)And it shows from Gen 2:7 when YHWH Elohim was actually manipulating the “dust” to form Adam and then…[Read more]

Mike,Point #1 – Yes “Adam” in this verse would more than likely be “Man” (mankind) because as you pointed out in another post v 28 says that Elohim blessed THEM which indicates at least 2 persons….not one.Point #2 Elohim = YHWH + SpiritYHWH Elohim is a “part” of Elohim…..His Name is YHWH.Spirit Elohim is the other “part of Elohim….Her Name…[Read more]

Martian,You miss a bigger point:Elohim = God ANDEl = God ANDYHWH is called God.You use only “God” and don't know which of these three “aspects” of “God” you are referring to.If you would stop using “God” and place the specific YHWH, El or Elohim in “God's” place you would see who is being addressed….and understand the difference. If you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2010,21:27)Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 06 2010,13:26)Why isn't Elohim the “Name” of the entity that has two essences? You choose to accept the one essence, “YHWH” Elohim, as a name, which I agree with.No David,”YHVH Elohim” is a name/title linked together.  This person's title is “God”, and His name is YHVH.Do you…[Read more]

Dennison,Hopefully, you won't believe what Jerry was saying.Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach and say, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” Mat 11:20 Then He began to denounce the cities in which most of His miracles were done, because they did not repent. Luk 13:3 “I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all…[Read more]

Gene,Gen 2:21 So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place.It seems fairly clear that YHWH Elohim was performing an actual operation…..anesthesia, cutting him open, removing a rib, closing him up.  Gen 2:22 The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 06 2010,16:17)Hi David,1.  Elohim means God.  Actually it is the plural form of “God” which is used to indicate that God is very majestic…..but that is a different subject.  YHVH is the personal NAME of that very majestic Elohim.  Saying Elohim YHVH is the same as saying “God Yahweh”.  It lists a title along with a name…[Read more]

Hello Irene,I posted another thread to explain WHY I asked everyone to do their own word search.Since you said you didn't know “HOW” to do a word search I thought I was “helping” by giving you step by step instructions. Knowing how to do this will help here or anytime that you need to look something up and you don't need to be able to read Hebrew…[Read more]

Hello JA,I see that you think knowing God is nonsense.The thread is short and simple and maybe someone will actually address it and disprove what the Scriptures say:Elohim is translated as God in Gen 1:1 In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.Elohim was talking and said, “Let US create Man in our image….” and He did:Gen 1:27…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Sep. 06 2010,12:36)God is neither male nor female but he is both.Hello Martian,This topic is becoming funny.  You were able to go to AHRC and do all this research but couldn't come back with WHAT “Spirit” is in Genesis 1:2.   Even after some simple instructions in “How To”.Another person is upset that I am trying to help him l…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Sep. 02 2010,05:05)Hi all,This passage created mess among Christian believers. The so called pre-existence of Jesus was meant by this passage can never make any difference who believes God alone can be the creator if at all He created this universe. Christianity wants Jesus to be the co-creator so that they can make God. Is this…[Read more]

Did Jesus not create us after God pro-created him as the firstborn of all creation?Is Jesus not our Savior? Is he not our “Lord and Master”?Did he not buy us with his blood?Jhn 6:29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him (JC) whom He has sent.” 2Pe 1:17 For when He received honor and glory from God the…[Read more]