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    Haven't been paying attention to this thread.Has Ed tried to prove that the holy spirit is God yet?

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 16 2012,13:42)Yes.  Matthew 2:44 When he had called together all the people’s chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Christ was to be born.That tells me Jesus was BORN already the Christ.The rest of Matthew 2 depicts a child who was worthy of obeisance and gifts – not just a regular old “n…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    sorry, didn't finish my thought. God sidetracked by how a 2 year old could be emperor.Quote I wonder why the scribes didn't tell Herod, “Don't worry, because according to Daniel, the Christ doesn't come for 30 more years.”First, we are talking about the scribes and the pharisees. I don't give them too much credit. In my mind it would be like…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote I have to wonder why magi and shepherds came to do homage to Jesus when he was born. I wonder why Herod had the scribes and Pharisees search the scriptures to find out where the CHRIST was TO BE born. (Matthew 2:4) I wonder why the scribes didn't tell Herod, “Don't worry, because according to Daniel, the Christ doesn't come for 30 more…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Mike, are these the scriptures that you use to support what you believe?Luke 211 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord.The angel didn't say, “He WILL BE Christ the Lord”.Luke 225 Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2012,05:31)Quote (david @ Mar. 15 2012,23:31)Hi Terrica, yes, it was fortold that Christ would appear and be cut off.  But when did that prophecy point to?  Did it point to his birth?  Or did it point to when he was “anointed” hence officially becoming the anointed one (Christ)?Dan 9:24-27 pinpoints when “messiah” wo…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Mar. 16 2012,12:49)Quote Even the pagans are aware of this because Christians have 'stomped on their parade,' so to speak and they see the difference. They aren't happy about it.Why do you believe this?You are not stomping on their parade.YOU ARE ENDORSING IT.  YOU ARE PROMOTING IT.  YOU ARE COMBINING IT WITH YOUR OWN BELIEFS AND P…[Read more]

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    The facts are:–It is the birthday of the sun god, not Jesus' birthday.–How does Jesus and his father view false gods? (approval/disapproval)–He commanded us to memorialize his death and nothing else.–The earliest Christians refused to celebrate his birthday or any one else's. Why?–Greed and commercialism have taken over this holiday.–It's…[Read more]

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    2/3 of those who celebrate Christmas–NOT CHRISTIAN.It's those who claim to follow Jesus who have therefore apparently decided to celebrate this worldly pagan lie of a holiday with the world. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.It started with false gods. It is still celebrated by neo pagans today. The customs and the date are the same. It is only the…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Mar. 16 2012,11:26)Hi Annie. Good posts BTW :)Some here like to encourage others to be a part of the world and it's ways.  Best to just let them be, they will not see it.I completely agree that we should be “no part of the world” as Christ said his followers would be.90% of the world celebrates Christmas. It is a global worldly…[Read more]

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    However, I may have missed some. If you are still wondering something, feel free to ask. Ok, I specifically wanted an answer to two questions:How the Hebrew feasts are connected to Christmas, Easter.And, the second, I've already asked, but will ask again:1. Why do you think the early Christians refused to celebrate birthdays (including Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote It is because of Christmas that more people are told the gospel message, Easter too. That is a very good thing and a means to carry out the great commission which was a command, btw.Yes, I know. Every year, I have to explain to 20 people why I don't celebrate Christmas or Easter.And yes, I obviously know that we are commanded to preach the…[Read more]

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    These celebrations were not officially celebrated annually until a few hundred years after they took place—LULU, we agree on this. I am wondering WHY you think the earliest Christians, the ones who knew Jesus, the ones who were taught by Jesus, the ones who knew the apostles and were taught be the apostles didn't think it important enough to…[Read more]

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    Quote No one is saying that they celebrate Christmas and Easter because of a command, but because the events of the birth and resurrection are fundamental to the Christian faith and what the original commanded feasts are pointing to.I'm wondering which feasts and what connection could actually be made, other than the fact that they both involve food?

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    Quote Actually, Christmas, which is about the story of Christ's birth, and Easter, which is about the death and resurrection of Christ, definitely have their roots from two of the most glorious events that took place in Christianity. Many of the established feasts pointed to these two events. No pagan roots there. Anything pagan that can be found…[Read more]

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    Quote Even the pagans are aware of this because Christians have 'stomped on their parade,' so to speak and they see the difference. They aren't happy about it.Why do you believe this?You are not stomping on their parade.YOU ARE ENDORSING IT. YOU ARE PROMOTING IT. YOU ARE COMBINING IT WITH YOUR OWN BELIEFS AND POPULARIZING IT. The only…[Read more]

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    90% of people in the world celebrate Christmas. What percentage of the world claims to be Christian? (33%)It started in paganism. It's still pagan. It's celebrated by more pagans and people who don't even believe in Jesus than by people who do.Based on the numbers above, it's a worldly holiday, not a Christian one.Jesus: be “no part of the…

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    Quote God gives us example after example of REPLACING things. He replaced Canaanites with Israelites in the land of Canaan.LU, what if those Israelites began to “learn the way of the heathen”? Is this something God would want?Your example involves not imitating, or mixing of Christian beliefs with pagan customs, but rather, a complete replacing…[Read more]

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    Quote You want the pagans to have their day separate from Christian celebrations and I want to replace their celebrations with Christian celebrations.It's mostly what Jesus wants: He was “no part of the world” and he said his followers would be “no part of the world.” They wouldn't adopt worldly holidays or be influenced by wordly thinking.…[Read more]

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    Quote This makes the pagans mad that 'their' day has been taken over by Christians and their god and goddess are not the ones honored on those days.This just isn't true. Pagans love that “we” (you) are following / mimicking / adopting / imitating their ways. It makes them smile and laugh, and shake their heads.

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