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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 20 2012,16:12)Quote (david @ Mar. 20 2012,07:16)Kerwin, my advise to Peter would be: Do not disown Jesus.  But your point is noted and a good one.  I shall add it to my file.To which i respond: Kerwin, if you lived in the first century, or the second, would you tell the Christians around you that they should no longer avoid c…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago

    Ed, there is a full proof way to know if my examples prove my case with regard to our discussion. Do the experiment I suggested in the other thread. Then you will understand how other people speak normally. “King Henry was born in 1068 in Shelby, Yorkshire, England…”He was not born “king” henry. Yet, this is the way people speak. It just…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 20 2012,16:22)Quote (david @ Mar. 20 2012,15:52)From the Greek, it seems to break down like this:1 John 5:20We have known     but     that    the     Son     of the     God      is come      and     he has given      to us    mental perception     in order that      we are knowing     the    true (one)      and      we are…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 20 2012,16:18)Quote (david @ Mar. 20 2012,15:44)Quote Christ means son of GOD!No.christ (from Greek) or messiah (from heb) both mean “anointed one.”  These words are used for others who are anointed in the Bible.  And often, it is just translated “anointed one.”yes christ means anointed. but it also means SON OF GOD!mat 1…[Read more]

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    Quote as we can see in john 1.1, john says he is GOD!Except, Greek has no indefinite articles (“a”). So, in the Bible in English, we add the “a” in there thousands of times in front of the word “God” where needed. Might John 1:1 be a case where this applies? It was translated from Greek (which has no indefinite article) into other languages…[Read more]

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    From the Greek, it seems to break down like this:1 John 5:20We have known but that the Son of the God is come and he has given to us mental perception in order that we are knowing the true (one) and we are in the true (one) in the Son of him to…[Read more]

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    Quote Christ means son of GOD!No.christ (from Greek) or messiah (from heb) both mean “anointed one.” These words are used for others who are anointed in the Bible. And often, it is just translated “anointed one.”

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago

    Luke 211 Today in the town of David a SAVIOR has been born to you; he is CHRIST the Lord.Luke 225 Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before he had seen…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago

    Mike, was Jesus born a Savior?

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago

    Quote That is my understanding, David. Jesus was born the Christ of God, just like the angel clearly said. You keep offering examples of someone looking back in time from the future, talking about this king was born in such and such a year – even though he wasn't king at that time.And I've already mentioned in another post, that this angel…[Read more]

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    Kerwin, my advise to Peter would be: Do not disown Jesus. But your point is noted and a good one. I shall add it to my file.To which i respond: Kerwin, if you lived in the first century, or the second, would you tell the Christians around you that they should no longer avoid celebrating jesus' birthday?

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago

    Matthew 2:44 When he had called together all the people’s chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Christ was to be born.”because there was born to you TODAY a SAVIOR, who is CHRIST Lord, in David’s city..”Let's imagine that I knew Mike's life story and for some reason, I was telling it to someone on this board–the sto…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago

    I only mean with regard to the conversation I've been having with Ed for the past 2 weeks where I am continually asking him to do an experiment to see how other people speak. (I know you understand what I'm referring to.) I'm not really thinking you are like Ed, but only that in this instance, you seem to not understand how people often speak…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2012,07:39)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 17 2012,13:18)………The angel was just relating to them that Jesus was the Messiah promised to come. He was not say Jesus was already anointed , that simply is not true Jesus was not anointed until he was anointed at the Jordan riverGene,If Jesus was just a regular old, non…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago

    Quote Also, did you consider my 1 Samuel passage? Did you see how Saul WAS ALREADY the anointed one (christ) of God; and then LATER was “anointed” with Holy Spirit? Mike, no, I did not consider it as it runs contrary to my belief. :)

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    “Many who are excitedly preparing for their Christmas celebrations would prefer not knowing about the holiday’s real significance.  If they do know the history, they often object that their celebration has nothing to do with the holiday’s monstrous history and meaning.  “We are just having fun.”Imagine that between 1933-45, the Nazi regime ce…[Read more]

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    “Christians in Antioch  in 375 celebrated the birth of Jesus on January 6. Christians in Alexandria did not begin to celebrate Christmas at all until 430. So until Dionysius came along there was confusion over dates, and debates raged, even over the usefulness of celebrating the birth of Jesus at all. What had been universally important for all…[Read more]

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    If it is wrong to say that you believe that according to scripture something is wrong, then we have all wronged each other thousands of times on here. Virtually every post, is a sin.

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    Quote (shimmer @ Mar. 17 2012,10:43)Annie and David, I could not agree with you more, way to go.I know that for myself, when I did celebrate Christmas – since knowing God… I stressed out about presents and money.  And then I got drunk – two years in a row.Not for me – that was a sign!Yes, that aspect, the “exchanging” of presents, as was…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 16 2012,17:11)David,Are you done?You have spent quite a lot of time on the internet today for someone who claims to be above being 'a part of the world.' I am going to be quite busy for the next few days at a retreat with the women from my church. I will address your questions later, although it may take me till Easter or…[Read more]

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