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    Quote (david @ Mar. 25 2012,04:32)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 22 2012,20:51)archangel is not the topic here david,make your own thread.now read to me anywhere in the bible that says Christ is not truly GOD!if you can read any single verse then ill quit. but if you cant read any single verse, and i will read to you that Christ is truly GOD, will you accpt…[Read more]

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    Why does Jammin keep ignoring 1 John 5:20? Isn't that what this discussion is about?

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    Quote (david @ Mar. 22 2012,17:35)Quote (david @ Mar. 21 2012,15:48)QUESTION:Where in 1 John 5:20 are we told that Christ is God?Jammin, I am pretty sure you never answered this.I don't think you actually have any desire to discuss this scripture. Do you?  I actually like this scripture and so I like to discuss it.Why do you refuse to discuss…[Read more]

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    Quote I'll use David's words to answer your question:”I actually know what the word 'god' means. It can be applied to more than the one true 'almighty' God, the Father.”David was the King of Israel at the same time God was the “only true King of Israel”.If you think this means David was an “untrue king”, or “no king at all”, then you have little…[Read more]

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    On, MATTHEW 16:16jammin, you also NEVER ANSWERED this question:If I said: “Ed is smart, a true word smith,” does this mean that “word smith” is the definition of “smart”?Just like 1 John 5:20, which you REFUSE to discuss or look at, Matthew 16:16 is similar. You just repeatedly state: “Mat 16:16,” but can't explain it or think about it or…[Read more]

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    Jammin, you said:“the son is also called the true GOD.”So I asked:”In this verse? Where? Please explain. Please explain why your Bible inserts the words “Jesus Christ” when they don't exist in the original writing? Were the original writers right, or was the translation team that added those words right? Please answer this.”I've actually…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 23 2012,16:00)mike,the father is called the true GODthe son is also called the true GOD!that's what the bible saysbetter luck next timeWHERE?I've asked this several times jammin.You just keep repeating statements with no actual scriptures.Go make your own version. This thread is about 1 John 5:20. Yet, you refuse to discuss…[Read more]

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    Quote now read to me anywhere in the bible that says Christ is not truly GOD!if you can read any single verse then ill quit. but if you cant read any single verse, and i will read to you that Christ is truly GOD, will you accpt that you are a false teacher? pls answer yes or no/.jammin, stay on topic. This thread is about 1 John 5:20. I of…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 22 2012,20:51)archangel is not the topic here david,make your own thread.now read to me anywhere in the bible that says Christ is not truly GOD!if you can read any single verse then ill quit. but if you cant read any single verse, and i will read to you that Christ is truly GOD, will you accpt that you are a false teacher? pls…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,02:59)Quote (david @ Mar. 22 2012,17:52)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2012,05:14)Hi Jammin, There are NO VERSES that say that Adam, Cyrus or Elizabeth ARE NOT GOD. Does such thinking lead to progress?“nick,the topic here is Christ not Adam etc.”Ok, JAMMIN,then can you give me a scripture that says: “CHRIST is not Michael…[Read more]

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    “The early Christians,” states Professor Ferguson in his book The Religions of the Roman Empire, “did not celebrate the birthday of Jesus; it was unrecorded.” The World Book Encyclopedia explains: “The early Christians did not celebrate His birth because they considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a pagan custom.”–Vo…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2012,13:48)Quote (david @ Mar. 21 2012,01:27)LU, my question:Why did the earliest Christians not feel great about celebrating Jesus birth?  Why did they shun the idea?  Were they wrong to do so?David,Please provide the quotes and the sources for these opinions. Maybe the context will give some indication as to why. T…[Read more]

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    Quote I know that you don't have a Christmas tree traditionFor many years I did, actually. Then, I had to make a choice. After much research, I decided paganism should not mix with godly worship. Quote A Christmas tree is merely a decoration to Christians to brighten the holiday, it is not something that is worshiped or used to honor a pagan…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago

    “I'm okay with that. But you will most likely not change my mind, since the angel in Luke 2 CLEARLY says Jesus was BORN the Christ.”Does the angel say that? ARe we looking at the same scripture? Which scripture exactly are you referring to?I think for me, the Dan 9, where the prophecy exists of “messiah the leader” appearing and being cut off…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago

    Quote David, read this scripture:Acts 2:36“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”This scripture makes it sound as if Jesus didn't become the Christ until after he was crucified. I didn't get that impression from the scripture. This is like where Jammin keeps saying that Chr…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago

    Quote Is Jesus Christ YOUR personal Savior right now – today? I assume you'll say “YES”, in which case, I want to know:1. Have you yet gone off into everlasting life?2. Have you come face to face with your Savior while he judged you favorably in the sight of God and His angels, and set you apart with the other sheep?3. Have you received your…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago

    Quote Luke 211 Today in the town of David a SAVIOR has been born to you; he is CHRIST the Lord.ok, even if you define savior as “one who saves,” who was Jesus saving at that time? Had he saved anyone at his birth, or any years around that time?No. Yet, when this was written (after he had saved many and after “messiah (christ) the leader”…[Read more]

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    david replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 21 2012,12:21)Quote (david @ Mar. 19 2012,22:33)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)And I've already mentioned in another post, that this angel wasn't looking back in time from the future, saying the one who EVENTUALLY TURNED INTO THE CHRIST was born in such and such a year.  Instead, this angel said he was born the Christ ON THE VERY…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2012,05:14)Hi Jammin, There are NO VERSES that say that Adam, Cyrus or Elizabeth ARE NOT GOD. Does such thinking lead to progress?“nick,the topic here is Christ not Adam etc.”Ok, JAMMIN,then can you give me a scripture that says: “CHRIST is not Michael the Archangel”?I guess Christ IS Michael the Archangel because try…[Read more]

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    We know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding so that we now the real God. We are in the one who is real, his Son Jesus Christ. This God the Father is the real God and eternal life.The fact that your Bible inserts the words “Jesus Christ” a second time proves no more than me inserting “God the Father.”You do get that, right?

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