“that seems an interesting topic and could very easily HAVE IT'S OWN THREAD.”–David.

Quote 7. Britain8. New Empire (that came out of the 7th head)Did the U.S. come out of Britain?

lightenup, that seems an interesting topic and could very easily have it's own thread.

Quote Well, some very old fragments of the Septuagint Version that actually existed in Jesus’ day have survived down to our day, and it is noteworthy that the personal name of God appeared in them. The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology (Volume 2, page 512) says: “Recent textual discoveries cast doubt on the idea that the com…[Read more]

To be more clear, instead of saying: “Does the name 'Jehovah' appear in the new testament,” you should perhaps ask if the tetragrammaton (the 4 letters representing the divine name) appear in the NT. The quick answer is that it does not. Only the shortened abreviated poetic form of the divine name…”Jah” appears in Revelation. As in: “praise…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 16 2012,03:18)Terricca…………..Satan is from the Hebrew word “ha-satan” and is translated in Greek as Diablo or DEVIL , as i understand it and they are the Same in meaning, and that can be anyone, even PETER was, Jesus called HIM SATAN> The word diabolical (deceitfully wicked ) comes from it.  You are confusing…[Read more]

Looking at ONLY THE ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS, I do not believe there are any instances where men are called the English word “angels.” I do see several instances where angels take on the form of men, when they appear to men, and hence, they are called “men” and yet, in parallel accounts called “angels.” I think that makes a lot more sense than to…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 02 2012,14:04)I totally know where you are coming from david and agree with what you are saying. Nick and EdJ make a doctrine or teaching out of the way translators used 2 different words to translate the same word. Whereas, their teaching should not be different because a fallible translator decides for himself when one is called…[Read more]

Often, when we define the terms, we clear up misunderstandings.”Are men ever called “angels” or given the description, “angel” in the bible?”–t8And while that question if asked in Greek would have a different answer, since the question is asked in English, technically, the answer is “no.”Men aren't called by the english word “angel” in English…[Read more]

Terriracci, you are an angel. If every day normal logic didn't close this discussion, then Terrarreccarica's message certainly did.

Quote Hi T8, my view is: Men are NOT called Angels (as you are proclaiming), they deliver a message.While Angelic beings are being described by the Hebrew word מַלְאָך malak. –ed.And in Hebrew below, but then translated back into English, except for the word in question:”Men are not called (as you are proclaiming), they deliver a message.”Maybe…[Read more]

Curious. Are there non-biblical writings from back then where Άγγελοι is clearly used to refer to people who were messengers?

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2012,17:08)Quote (david @ June 28 2012,16:17)Quote humans are not called Angels; and you know that T8 has not proved that they are called Angels either.–ed.This thread drives me insane.  I want you to imagine saying these words in Greek Ed.  Actually think about how it would sound for you to say these words in Greek.  …[Read more]

Quote humans are not called Angels; and you know that T8 has not proved that they are called Angels either.–ed.This thread drives me insane. I want you to imagine saying these words in Greek Ed. Actually think about how it would sound for you to say these words in Greek. This whole thread would be ridiculous in Greek.

Not sure the rules, but I see others are posting here, so a quick thought:It would be easier for Nick to understand if the discussion was happening in Greek. Well, it wouldn't be easier to understand, (unless he speaks greek) but all his comments would seem rather silly if we were to translate them into Greek.He would be saying: “No, angel does…[Read more]

For the private discussion between T8 and Nick, it would be easier for Nick to understand if the discussion was happening in Greek. Well, it wouldn't be easier to understand, (unless he speaks greek) but all his comments would seem rather silly if we were to translate them into Greek.He would be saying: “No, angel does not mean angel.” He would…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ June 26 2012,19:53)Quote (david @ June 26 2012,18:20)what is this about a new site?WOWHOO, A JEHOVA WITNESS IS NOT A SKEPTIC!!Big smile David…WELL DONE!There are a couple errors in that statement. Anyway, I still have no clue what the “new site” is. Is it a completely different site? Or, is this site being improved?

Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2012,20:56)Quote (david @ June 26 2012,18:28)“we” is the bildeberg group.  And “we” was joking about it of course.  I find the bildeberg group way more fascinating/sinister.  Any man can get into the grove if they are willing to pay tens of thousands and are willing to wait on the waiting list for 17 years.  But the bil…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 15 2012,09:35)Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2012,18:05)Hi Mike,I do always answer your questions in whatever thread you ask me.But I was only concerned after I seen my name on a question you had been asking Nick, because you had ran from dis-cussions with me on this very issue a few days earlier.This is why the Hot Seat exists and why we…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 06 2012,18:27)Quote (t8 @ June 06 2012,17:35)I want to let everyone know that if a person avoids a question, then is taken to the Hot Seat and continues to avoid a question, then that person will be given a penalty square. This is to curb the practice of avoidance which will further the mission here to test all things.A…[Read more]