Lets leave ad hominids out of this. 🙂

I have to say it:Your ontological question is anti-logical. I choose to sidestep it and focus on things that are actually in the Bible.

Limjunis would like to add this one to the list:”The basic and the fundamental knowledge that we can be sure it came truly from God, is to hear or listen first His words from the preachers He hath been sent; Believed and be baptized, then the believers can do the commandments/laws of God.”

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 09 2012,20:08)t8,Define spirit in this context “God is spirit.”Then define spirit in this context, “He gives His spirit to beings and that spirit, if not remaining, returns to God.”I agree. You can't just believe that the word spirit is always used the same way. The word translated spirit has a number of meanings,…[Read more]

I know what ontioalogacal means. Obviously. :-). Does the bible speak in antilogical terms, showing that he is, or isn't such?I have never been one to make these distinctions–with God being one sort of being and Jesus another and angels another. It sems impossible to show anyway. In the same sense that a father is greater than his son, the…[Read more]

Ontologically? Sounds like something is 1:18 would say.

And Pierre added concerning the MESSENGERS OF GOD:that all new converts are directed toward Jehovah God and Christ his son and so can only be a disciple of Christ by the message recieved from the direct disciples of Christ

t8 added:They will be part of the Body of Christ and preach in the name of Jesus Christ. They will not speak in any other name including denominations and men. They will speak in the name of Jesus Christ whom YHWH sent.

Ok, I think we have established who the true MESSENGERS OF GOD are and what their DIVINE CREDENTIALS are:This is how the MESSENGERS OF GOD will be known:Bible: The entire Bible is the inspired Word of God, and instead of adhering to a creed based on human tradition, they hold to the Bible as the standard for all their beliefs.God: They worship…[Read more]

That was Ed, not me.

Ed, I'm not sure if this thread is for arguing the point. I think most people on here understand that when you ask someone something directly and they refuse to answer, it is generally considered suspect. I think I have pointed that out about 200 times on here. But, if you are arguing that it is 100% proof of something, that isn't true. I know…[Read more]

You believe it is a rule.It tends to be true generally speaking. So, I didn't agree with you, but am pointing out your error.

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 09 2012,15:07)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2012,18:16)Hi Ed, Despite our differences your light is encouraging.Keep up the good work.Hi Nick,Yours too brother!Your servant in Christ, Jesus.Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.orgWhy did nick delete his post?Where did is 1:18 come from? Is he always watching this forum?I only…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 09 2012,17:38)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 09 2012,17:36)Quote (david @ Nov. 09 2012,17:28)Ed, I think you know all too well what happens when you assume.If you actually read my posts above, or the post itself, you should be able to discern that I am merely trying an experiment.  I've gotten a little frustrated with this particular…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 09 2012,17:36)Quote (david @ Nov. 09 2012,17:28)Ed, I think you know all too well what happens when you assume.If you actually read my posts above, or the post itself, you should be able to discern that I am merely trying an experiment.  I've gotten a little frustrated with this particular thread and decided to shake it up.Hi…[Read more]

“By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves.” (John 13:35)How do we identify Jesus disciples? They would have love among themselves. This is the divine credential of the MESSENGERS OF GOD. They have love among themselves and love of neighbour as well. They show this love by sharing the good news wit…[Read more]

Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 09 2012,14:37)Quote (david @ Nov. 09 2012,10:59)Ok.  Ive decided I am going to try something different here.  Should be interesting.Dear david,You have decided to try something new here? It must be related to the thread or else it is better for you to try it with the new thread to be created and sponsor by you.Well l…[Read more]

Ed, I think you know all too well what happens when you assume.If you actually read my posts above, or the post itself, you should be able to discern that I am merely trying an experiment. I've gotten a little frustrated with this particular thread and decided to shake it up.

Quote …..so they well know but did not physicly recognized him, this was not the first enconter ,and for that reason they did not dear to ask WHO ARE YOU,because if they would have Jesus would have ask them well did you not find fish were I told you ???they add a dillema to solve and they solve it by not asking who he was, Terra rica, so, you…[Read more]

Kerwin, why are you saying that in this account, God hid Jesus identity from them?We know he didn't. 1.on seeing the miracle, Peter said: it is The Lord2. The verse in question actually says: 'for they knew it was the lord'So, no identity hid here. If they knew his identity, then his identity was not hid from them. For the seventy fourth Tim,…[Read more]