david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
TORMENTThe Greek word ba·sa·ni´zo (and related terms) occurs over 20 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures. It basically meant “test by the proving stone ” and, by extension, “examine or question by applying torture.” Lexicographers point out that in the Christian Greek Scriptures it is used with the sense of ‘vexing with grievous pains; being…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
LAKE OF FIREThis expression occurs only in the book of Revelation and is clearly symbolic. The Bible gives its own explanation and definition of the symbol by stating: “This means the second death, the lake of fire.”—Re 20:14; 21:8.The symbolic quality of the lake of fire is further evident from the context of references to it in the book of Revel…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
(Ge·hen´na) .This name appears 12 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures, and whereas many translators take the liberty to render it by the word “hell,” a number of modern translations transliterate the word from the Greek ge´en·na.—Mt 5:22, Ro, Mo, ED, NW, BC (Spanish), NC (Spanish), also the footnotes of Da and RS.The deep, narrow Valley of…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
(She´ol).The common grave of mankind, gravedom; not an individual burial place or grave (Heb., qe´ver, Jg 16:31; qevu·rah´, Ge 35:20), nor an individual tomb (Heb., ga·dhish´, Job 21:32).While several derivations for the Hebrew word she´ohl´ have been offered, apparently it is derived from the Hebrew verb sha·´al´, meaning “ask; request.” Re…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Hades is the common transliteration into English of the corresponding Greek word hai´des. It perhaps means “the unseen place.” In all, the word “Hades” occurs ten times in the earliest manuscripts of the Christian Greek Scriptures.—Mt 11:23; 16:18; Lu 10:15; 16:23; Ac 2:27, 31; Re 1:18; 6:8; 20:13, 14.The Greek Septuagint translation of the Hebrew…[Read more]
david replied to the topic If Jesus isn't God in the forum Truth or Tradition 20 years, 11 months ago
yes2truth said:”You are still ignoring the fact that Elohim is plural.”Yes2truth, you seem TO IGNORE that this word is used in the same way for individual pagan divinities, such as DAGON (1 Samuel 5:7) and MARDUK (Daniel 1:2), WHO WERE NOT TRIUNE GODS!Commenting on this, Oxford scholar R. B. Girdlestone writes in his Synonyms of the Old Testament:…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
So your definition of “soul” would be “vessel”? Is that it? Is that all it can mean? What do the many many many scriptures I put down show it to mean in your opinion? Just a vessel? Is that the only meaning?And your definition of spirit of God would be that which fills the vessel?OK, I understand what you beleive now.At 2 Corinthians 5:1,…[Read more]
david replied to the topic If Jesus isn't God in the forum Truth or Tradition 20 years, 11 months ago
If Jehovah God sends his son to the earth and tell people to follow him and some reject him, they are also rejecting the one who sent him, Jehovah himself. So how are the Jews and Islamics saved, simply because they believe in one God? If God sends his son and his son is rejected, they have in effect rejected God as well.
david replied to the topic If Jesus isn't God in the forum Truth or Tradition 20 years, 11 months ago
The Hebrew word ´elo·him´ (gods) appears to be from a root meaning “be strong.” ´Elo·him´ is the plural of ´eloh´ah (god). Sometimes this plural refers to a number of gods (Ge 31:30, 32; 35:2), but more often it is used as a plural of majesty, dignity, or excellence. ´Elo·him´ is used in the Scriptures with reference to Jehovah himself, to an…[Read more]
david replied to the topic If Jesus isn't God in the forum Truth or Tradition 20 years, 11 months ago
Sorry, those quotes were taken from his posts of Oct 26th.
david replied to the topic If Jesus isn't God in the forum Truth or Tradition 20 years, 11 months ago
What is the meaning of John 5:18?John 5:18, RS: “This was why the Jews sought all the more to kill him, because he not only broke the sabbath but also called God his Father, making himself equal with God.”It was the unbelieving Jews who reasoned that Jesus was attempting to make himself equal with God by claiming God as his Father. While pro…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Quote The breath of God animated man and made him a living soul. The breath of God animated animals.The source of their life is identical. A couple of pages ago, you stated the above, Nick. I'm wondering what you think this breath of God is. Do you think it's the spirit that man was given? Was the giving of this breath of God (spirit) what made…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
“God looks at us as living souls.” Yes Nick, I suppose he would, for that is what we are. Adam “came to be a living soul,” the scripture says. But I'm wondering what is meant by “living soul.” Well. No, I know what this particular verse says. What I'm wondering is what is your end all complete definition of the word “soul” as you…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Quote Hi david,There is another view of gehenna that Jesus referred to in Mark 9.42-48. It reminds us of the rubbish tip ouitside of Jerusalem.Is 66.24″Then they shall go forth and look on the corpses of the men who have transgressed against me. For their worm shall not die, and their fire shall not be quenched and they shall be an abhorrence to…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS–HOW DOES THIS STORY COMPARE WITH WHAT THE REST OF THE BIBLE TEACHES ABOUT THE SOUL, SCRIPTURES SUCH AS:“The soul that is sinning—it itself will die.” (Ezekiel 18:4, 20) “As for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5)HOW OFTEN DOES THE BIBLE SAY JESUS USED ILLUSTRATIONS OR PARABLES?MA…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
They were 8 or 10 year olds Nick. Yes, they could recognize us by our appearance and serious visage and the fact that we have Bibles. That is true. Or part of it.But my point was this: Why didn't they ask if we were Catholics? Or Protestants, or Nick Hassen, etc? Because there is really only one group that goes to people everywhere with the…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Quote (kenrch @ Oct. 26 2005,03:24)Hi, DavidI know you have an answer for this scriptures.Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.1Co 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Kenrch, you asked about two scriptures. Here's the first. And no, I'm not ingoring you. There is no click. I'm just not on here all the time, and prefer to have one conversation at a time, to discuss one scripture at a time. So, here is one:MATTHEW 10:28“And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but r…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Yes, death is often compared to sleep, because just as in a deep sleep, we are conscious of nothing, exactly as the Bible says of death. And, like death, we can be woken up, or resurrected (literally, a standing up again.)Anyway, let's look at this talking to the dead for a moment. I was hoping to talk about that parable and the other hundreds…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
“Soul”–A Living Creature, Human or Animal; Life as an Intelligent Person; Other UsesHebrew nephesh Greek psykheHebrew word nephesh occurs 754 times, first in Genesis 1:20. (Notice how it is used here.)Greek word pyckhe occurs by itself 102 times, first in Matthew 2:20. (Notice how it is used here, and contrast to Gen 1:20.)Soul, as the Bible write…[Read more]
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