An eye for an eye???A standard of justice given by God: “Eye for eye, tooth for tooth.” (Exodus 21:24) For the sake of argument, apply to the doctrine of hellfire that divine law given to ancient Israel, a law of exact retribution. What conclusion will you likely reach? That only those sinners who have caused eternal torment deserve equal ete…[Read more]

I even wonder what atrocities have been committed by those who have believed in a God who tortures his enemies.If we are to become “imitators of God,” (Eph 5:1,2) what horrific things have some devised, what crimes against humanity have been commited believing that God does such things? It's scary to consider.

Everlasting torment is intolerable from a moral point of view because it makes God into a bloodthirsty monster who maintains an everlasting Auschwitz for victims whom he does not even allow to die.How can anyone with the milk of human kindness in him remain calm contemplating such an idea as the the traditional doctrine of hell?How can Christians…[Read more]

Nick, do not silence your conscience by shying away from these questions. Looking the other way, does not make these perplexities disappear. So let us face the issue. What are the moral implications attached to this doctrine?

Nick, how can the God who tells us in the Bible that we are to love our ENEMIES wish to torture his enemies for eternity? (1 John 4:8-10) Well?

Should the God of love watch for all eternity this endless, hopeless, pitiless, loveless, cruel physical-psychological torture of his creatures?Is he such a hardhearted creditor?What would we think of a human being who satisfied his thirst for revenge so implacably and insatiably?What would any person think of you Nick, if you put your son's hand…[Read more]

Is there eternal punishment for the wicked?Matt. 25:46, KJ: “These shall go away into everlasting punishment : but the righteous into life eternal.” (The Emphatic Diaglott reads “cutting-off” instead of “punishment.” A footnote states: “Kolasin . . . is derived from kolazoo, which signifies, 1. To cut off; as lopping off branches of trees, to pru…[Read more]

The apostle Paul resisted the pressure to assimilate either Greek philosophy or erroneous traditions into his teaching. “Look out,” he cautioned. “Perhaps there may be someone who will carry you off as his prey through the philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men.” (Colossians 2:8; 1 Corinthians 1:22, 23; 2:1-13)

Quote irst a body from the dust…Man is formedthenThe breath of God makes him a living being.A being has life.Dust is what we started as, then life and soul was added by the breath of God to make Adam a living being. “Then life and soul was added….” Nick???Really?Is that what it says?Or rather, does it say he BECAME a soul. Not a soul was…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,Why would you fear punishment by our God? Surely you too have become a reborn son and safe from the fear of “eternal destruction” Wait, now you're saying “eternal destruction.”?

Dr. Tom Wright, dean of Litchfield Cathedral, states that imagery of hellfire “made God into a monster and left searing psychological scars on many.”Obviously. Obviously it would do so, even as a human father doing such a thing to one of our brothers or any other human would have the same effect on us.Obviously, an apostate teaching of Satan who…[Read more]

You see Nick, if you were to press another human's hands (especially that of your children) onto a burner or into a fire and hold his hand there forever, you would be viewed as a sadistic cruel person, unloving, unjust. To acknowledge this would be to state the obvious: That putting Jehovah in the same situation shows him to be the same. And we…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,Why would you fear punishment by our God? Surely you too have become a reborn son and safe from the fear of “eternal destruction”Surely you too are not a soothsayer whio tells men to do nothing but trust in the expansive total forgiveness of God for all men who reject His son and his teaching? So, you can't answer my question can…[Read more]

The threat of painful retribution in the afterlife has counterparts in nearly every major world religion and in some minor ones as well. Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Jains, and Taoists believe in a hell of one sort or another.Interesting.WHEN DID PROFESSED CHRISTIANS ADOPT THE BELIEF IN HELLFIRE? Well after the time of Jesus Christ and his…[Read more]

Many teach that the wicked will go to a fiery hell and be tormented forever. Is this teaching logical and Scriptural? The human life span is limited to 70 or 80 years. Even if someone was guilty of extreme wickedness all his life, would everlasting torment be a just punishment? No. It would be grossly unjust to torment a man forever for the sins…[Read more]

Right Nick.Quote What do you make of this scripture?“‘The sons of Judah have done what is bad in my eyes,’ is the utterance of Jehovah. ‘They have set their disgusting things in the house upon which my name has been called, in order to defile it. And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom , in orde…[Read more]

It doesn't have to be Nick. What does Adam Pastor or Soxan or anyone think of Jeremiah 7:30,31? What does this tell us about God Almighty? What does this tell us about the idea of God creating a place to burn someone alive?Anyone?

Hey Nick.Everything I've said to you is from the Bible. I've never said: “This is true because this is what they teach.” Have I? Whenever I show you what I believe, there are always a number of scriptures to back it up.There are no traces of Greek philosphy or pagan beliefs that have been carried down from Babylon in what I believe.david

Quote Nick i can`t muster the same sympathy others are trying to reach you with. You both have not gained my respect. Rather you disgust me, with the way you butcher the bible and math. What you clearly know you reject. David you do not have my respect. You come across as a soft spoken person, but you and i know better. Yes, it's clear that you…[Read more]

That isn't the question? Is this the question? How about this one? This is fun.My question is: What do you make of that scripture above, Jer. 7:30,31?