david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
I'm just telling you what my dictionary says. It has a few definitions, as I've said, and shown. One definition of “being” is “to be.” If you could pick a specific definition of “being” or use a similar word, this conversation would seem less shadowy.
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Quote 33.21f” His flesh wastes away from sight and his bones which were not seen stick out. Then his soul draws near to the pit and his life to those who bring death…He has redeemed my soul from going to the pit and my life shall see the light…To bring back his soul from the pit that he may be enlightened with the light of life”So the soul is…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Jesus, “existing in God’s form” (Php 2:5-8), later “became flesh,” residing among mankind as the man.We are flesh. While in the image of God, we do not exist in God's form, as Jesus had and does now. We are not spirit creatures, as the angels are. This should be obvious.”Is God a being? Yes.” Well, right so far.”Does God have a body? No, God i…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Quote I do not answer because I do not want to encourage you to continue to judge God. First, I don't judge God, but am saddened by your slander of Him.Nick, you don't answer because the answer is ridiculously obvious. It is obvious to me, you and anyone reading this. It's obvious to your son's, daughters, family and friends. It's obvious even…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Quote 1Cor 5.9″ I have decided to deliver such a one to Satan, for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus” Hey Nick.Again, a quick look at the context quickly dispells applying the wrong understanding of the word “spirit” in this instance. Oh, it's 1 Cor 5:5 by the way, not 5:9.As I've already…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Hey What is True.Nick has formed a very complex belief system about the soul/spirit/condition of the dead. He's not willing to abandon it no matter how many times we quote Genesis.So, WIT, since Nick is avoiding this question like the plague, what do you think: Would Nick, a loving parent press his son's hand into a stove burner?I know you don't…[Read more]
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Quote the personality or soul is still always intactAre you saying the soul is one's personality?
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
HEY NICK,I totally forgot. I have this Bible that I went through and outlined all the scriptures relating to soul/spirit/and condition of the dead. You mentioned Job. I think we should put his mentionings of spirit/soul/etc down as they are quite insightful.MAN FROM DUST, TO DUST HE WILL “RETURN.” HE WILL RETURN TO WHERE HE CAME FROM, NOWHERE.…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
What happens to a person when he dies?When Adam sinned, God told him:“You return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Gen 3:19)Think of what this means. Before God created him from the dust, there was no Adam. He did not exist. So, after he died, Adam returned to that same state of…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
You are the one sticking with your Greek Philospophy. I'm suprised you haven't quoted Socrates, Plato, or Aristotle to back up your beliefs.It is not philosophy, but rather the simple logic of this question that is showing the ridiculousness of your belief:–If the idea of roasting people in fire had never come into God's heart, does it seem…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
No, the parable of the rich man and lazarus isn't offensive to me in the least.Again, as I said in the quote above, it's not any part of the Bible I find offensive, but rather your understanding of God and the cruelty and injustice you imagine he is capable of.Would you burn your child Nick? You seem to avoid this distasteful question.
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Again, for the nth time, you say “soul” was one of the parts of him when Adam was created. The Bible says he came to “be a living soul.”Why fight that?
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Quote I realise you find parts of the bible offensive Nick, you know I don't find any parts of the Bible offensive. It's turning your head from the rest of the Bible and painting the Almighty in the light you did that I find offensive. And I'm sure Jehovah finds it offensive as well.david
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Quote Hi david,Spamming the site with multiple posts is frowned upon. I realise you find parts of the bible offensive but moderation is advisable in expressing your thoughts. It is also surprising that you would cast aspersions on others on this site in view of your reprimands given others for the same thing. Sorry Nick. I won't spam the site if…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Quote Hi david,How do you cope with the killing of woman and children under the commands of God in the Old Testament? Do you find this distasteful? Do you judge God as merciless? There is a chasm of difference between ending someone's life and ongoing torture. Do you not see a difference?
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
There are many more questions I'd like to ask and more scriptures to consider, but I have to go to a meeting. We're studying Daniel, the book of Daniel, at our book study.cheers.david.
david replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Right, it says: And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul. Again, notice what it actually says. Imagine he was making a clay vessel, instead of a man. This scipture doesn't say: He made a man. Then he put a soul in him. It says,…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
The Problem of Pain: “There is no doctrine which I would more willingly remove from Christianity than this, if it lay in my power. But it has the full support of Scripture and, specially, of Our Lord’s own words.” Thus, supporters confess that eternal torment is appalling, but in the same breath, they hold that the doctrine is mandatory becau…[Read more]
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
I'm not quibbling Nick. You are accusing our soveriegn Lord Jehovah, our Holy clean God, as being a cruel vindictive monster without love, or justice. You are slandering him in a most dishonoring way. I am pointing out some troubling questions that arise from this slander and some scriptures that must make people wonder.dave
david replied to the topic Hades/hell in the forum Scriptural Teachings 20 years, 11 months ago
Quote Hi david,The message is, no matter what our differing views of what scripture says on these matters, that men need to take very seriously the gospel of Jesus Christ. It is plainly evident to all that our only opportunity to do so is while we are living on th earth. Fear God david and make sure you are reborn into the Son rather than…[Read more]
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