HI SOXAN,So, I mention that you are completely unable to produce a sound argument or scriptural basis for your trinity belief and that you have yet to show one scripture.Your responce? Could you not put forth the effort to find one scripture to support your belief?No, but instead, you again accuse me of “selling” magazines.I guess it's easier to…[Read more]

If I say what is true, why argue? What does it matter where it comes from?You say: “So sheol is in the belly of a fish? No.”No, sheol isn't specifically in the belly of a fish. But for Jonah, the belly of that fish was about to become his grave (sheol).It's not ME WHO IS SAYING THIS Nick.“Jonah PRAYED to Jehovah his God FROM THE INWARD PARTS O…[Read more]

Isn't someone that is brainwahsed someone who doesn't even know why they believe what they do (like you) and who cannot bring one shred of evidence to prove what they do (like you).Everyone believes the trinity, so you do. Do you know why you believe it? Have you read any of the Bible? Have you spent thousands of hours are even a couple looking…[Read more]

Your lack of ownership to a Bible, or your inability to use it makes you rest your case.And just in case there's any doubt in your mind, you lost the case. The trinity doctrine was thrown out once again for lack of evidence.

Quote Yo-yo if you did use scriptures truthfully you`d be in my camp instead of your elders camp. Unlike you i use my own brain, not the elders brains. I -must-say- and-think-what-the-elders-say-and-think-and-i-must-sell-watchtower-megazines-all-hail-the-all-knowing-elders! Duh-avid, start thinking for your self!OK, so instead of commenting on the…[Read more]

Do you even own a Bible?

While the Greek teaching of the immortality of the human soul infiltrated Jewish religious thinking in later centuries, the Bible record shows that Sheol refers to mankind’s common grave as a place where there is no consciousness. (Ec 9:4-6, 10) Those in Sheol neither praise God nor mention him. (Ps 6:4, 5; Isa 38:17-19) Throughout the inspired S…[Read more]

Hey Soxan.Can't help but notice you haven't used any actual scriptures in this thread to support your…whatever they are.Time for some history:God inspired the Bible. The Bible tells us that there are many gods: idols are called gods, Satan is called a god, the angels are called gods, even human judges of Israel were called gods.Does this make…[Read more]

You quote Matthew 25:41, then actually verse 46.Verse 46 I've already said this about:Matt. 25:46, KJ: “These shall go away into everlasting punishment : but the righteous into life eternal.” (The Emphatic Diaglott (and my translation) reads “cutting-off” instead of “punishment.” A footnote states: “Kolasin . . . is derived from kolazoo, whic…[Read more]

KENRCH, what do YOU think of the 10 questions I've asked Nick?

Nick, where have I once said that anything Jesus said wasn't true?But as we know, he spoke in illustrations, all the time. This cannot be disputed:MATTHEW 13:34-35“All these things Jesus spoke to the crowds by illustrations. Indeed, without an illustration he would not speak to them; that there might be fulfilled what was spoken through the p…[Read more]

I know some very simple things about the lake of fire. I know that death and hell (hades) are thrown into it. And those who face the second death.Is death to be tortured forever along with hades?Or are they, like those who experience the second death, to be destroyed?What effect can literal fire have on something such as death?Perhaps, the lake…[Read more]

Quote Hi david,I do ignore facetious or rhetoric questions or those that are designed to lead one into a trap. It is not a competition. What have you learned here lately? Jesus used a lot of questions. It's a great teaching tool. It reveals what's in the heart and allows others to express themselves. While the Bible tells us to “shun foolish…[Read more]

Nick, how ironic that you accuse me of using Greek philosophy when it comes to this belief, despite the fact that the separation of soul from body IS a Greek belief, one that I don’t subscribe to.You tell me to limit my comments and that’s understandable. I have been putting a lot down. But I just don’t see how you can’t see this, when there i…[Read more]

I'm sorry. Somehow I put all those scriptures and thoughts about hades not being a place of unending torture in the wrong thread. I came here looking for it, where it should be, but it was in the soul thread. I should put it here as well.DOES GOD TORMENT PEOPLE IN HELLFIRE AS BABYLONIAN RELIGIONS AND GREEK INFLUENCE TEACHES?1.–What does…[Read more]

Quote Are you really saying you discover the nature of God but studying the morals of Men? Bizarre. No Nick, you will notice if you read what I wrote that the first 4 questionings related to how JEHOVAH GOD feels about things. It looks at how he felt about burning people alive, it looks at HIS love, HIS justice, and what HE tells us about loving…[Read more]

Quote I agree persons are souls ..whether or not they are clothed in a body. Likewise animals too are beings. Their clay too was given life and nature from the breath of God.Sheol and hades are not the same but hades is shown in Luke 16 by Jesus Christ to be the part of sheol where sinners await their judgement. Those who will inherit with…[Read more]

Hey Nick.No, I have many questions. You have THUS FAR REFUSED TO ANSWER THEM. But I know why. 1.–What does YOUR VERSION of Jeremiah 7:31 say?–What does YOUR BIBLE tell us about Jehovah at Jeremiah 7:31?–How does that thought about Jehovah at Jeremiah 7:31 in YOUR BIBLE compare to your understanding of the parable of the rich man and…[Read more]

Quote Is God a being? YesDoes God have a body? No, God is spirit.So does a being need a body to be a being? NoCan a body not be a being? Yes, dead bodies are not beings.Are the dead still beings? Yes.They have not stopped existing just because their body has died.Are we made like to God? Yes we are made like too Him according to scripture.It's…[Read more]

Quote At the second resurrection souls are awakened What you say in this quote about souls is right, but what you mean is wrong, as odd as that sounds.”souls are awakened.” Not: “souls are awakened.”But about being thrown alive into the lake of fire, (a place where hades and death are also cast) does make one wonder.What effect will this lake…[Read more]