Everyone else has been quite silent on this. Anyone other than Nick believe that Jehovah tortures people ongoingly in fire for the sins of a few years on earth?What do other people think of this story?What do other people think of the teaching of hellfire, as it is commonly believed?

So you stick with Luke 16 being literal despite the fact that “without an illustration he would not speak to them,” and YOU deny several other scriptures to suit your beliefs. Sad.Either Luke 16 is a parable, or many many other parts of the Bible either don't make sence or are somehow not to be taken literally.Nick, I'm not arguing with Jesus. I…[Read more]

Some Biblical points to consider:1.–What does Jeremiah 7:31 say? (Check several Bibles.)–What does Jeremiah 7:31 tell us about Jehovah?–How does that thought about Jehovah at Jeremiah 7:31 compare to the teaching of hellfire?–If it never came into God’s heart, how can can we imagine he does such a thing on a larger scale?2.– How can the G…[Read more]

The 'let's all do our own thing' mentality is a dangerous one. Satan is a roaring lion seeking to devour. (1 Pet 5:8) Like any lion, he looks for the week and for those who stray from the flock. The early Christians were referred to as a flock. (Acts 20:28) A 'flock' is a group of something that is 'together.' A flock of sheep generally…[Read more]

Hey Nick.You should probably be resting. But, since you're here…Once again, the Bible does NOT ALLOW us to take this story as literal. You may argue against the meaning of the parable, but to argue that it is literal is to go against many many other clear Bible passages.“Indeed, without an illustration he would not speak to them.” (Matthew 13:…[Read more]

Imagine for a second that Yahweh is the most powerful being in existence, which is a grand understatement. He is. Let's call him a King, a King above kings, which rightly describes him. When we were told in the Bible that King Solomon built the temple, did he?Did he do the work himself? Or, rather, did he, as king, have the work done?The Bible…[Read more]

Quote Are you leading to the conclusion that the only begotten son was not distinct from the angels but one of them? No. I am not. Jesus was the only begotten son. He was the first spirit creature created, and was created directly by Jehovah. The only one who was created directly by Jehovah. Jesus was a spirit creature. What are the angels?…[Read more]

Quote “So the story of the rich man and Lazarus is an allegory? That is fine. There are plenty of allegorical stories in the gospel of Jesus Christ……To simply dismiss these words as allegorical without expounding that allegory is to denigrate the words of Jesus surely.”Teachers of hellfire quickly point to this account as definite proof tha…[Read more]

See “Jesus, Michael” in “General Discussions.

Angels.Both the Hebrew mal·´akh´ and the Greek ag´ge·los literally mean “messenger.” From the first book of the Bible to the last, these words occur nearly 400 times. When spirit messengers are indicated, the words are translated “angels,” but if the reference definitely is to human creatures, the rendering is “messengers.” (Ge 16:7; 32:3; Jas…[Read more]

Today, Michael is a common name for people to have. People tend to think that Jesus is quite a special name and he can't have another name. It was quite a common name when he was on earth.Sometimes for a particular purpose names were changed or a person might be given an additional name. While dying, Rachel called her newborn son Ben-oni…[Read more]

Is Jesus Christ the same person as Michael the archangel?According to the Bible, there are millions of angelic creatures inhabiting the spirit realm. (Daniel 7:9, 10; Revelation 5:11) From beginning to end, the Scriptures make hundreds of references to the angels that remain loyal to God. Yet, only two of these spirit creatures are mentioned by…[Read more]

God frequently changed names for people when they took on different roles. Jesus Christ has been given many titles, all fitting. The name Michael means: “Who is like God?”k4c, I was wondering why exactly you do believe that Michael the archangel is Jesus?

OK, glad you're back. I have the answers to all your questions above. I've been gone for the weekend and somewhat sidetracked lately though. What would it mean if all of those pieces of his story made sence in parable form? What would that mean to you?Since there are so many things that disagree with it being literal, if there was some…[Read more]

Any word on how Nick is doing?

Hi Eliyah, despite our differences which are sometimes heated, I truly do hope you get better and are feeling better. I enjoy talking to you, even though we mostly disagree.Why is it that someone has to be gravely sick before nice things are said? A month ago, I considered starting a thread on the subject of “Encouraging things about other…[Read more]

I was wrong.Eliyah has returned.

Eliyah are you trying to out crazy him (with all this star trek stuff). I've often thought that the best way to deal with someone who has no sense of anything, logic, scripture or otherwise, is to do as you're sort of doing–Act crazy, like them. Throw completely insane arguments back at them. Although it's fun, it really doesn't lead anywhere…[Read more]

Eliyah, where have you been?david.

Hi beenblake, Nick said he will be away for a few weeks. He's having surgery.